Mikel Arteta Thread

[LDG]

It's not so much the defence part and sitting back I'm referring to, just taking on the responsibility to take the ball from defence and play it forward like how Vieria used to do. Cesc was great at doing it when playing a 4-4-2 with Gilberto, Diaby and Rosicky play box to box and are more mobile but Diaby player a disciplined game against Liverpool and I've also seen him do that when paired with Song or Denilson in the past.

I don't think it's so much about the role but more about the player and Arteta just can't play on the half turn. Wilshere played the deep role once and he was great at taking on the responsibility and keeping the ball moving even when under pressure as seen when playing against Barca. Arteta just can't play that way.

I just don't know anymore. You're right about playing on the half turn. Deffo.

On the one hand I want to stick up for him, as I think he's done a sterling job for us over the last year or so. Certainly last season, and early doors this.

But when all is said and done. Is he good enough? I think he's an intellegent player. But is he quick enough, especially when the "out ball" is being cut off.

From what I've seen just recently, nobody has been showing for the ball. There is no movement in the team. Nothing. And it's very hard for a player to play out from the back, when the rest of the team don't work hard enough for you, or (as is the case with "some" players) are just plain shit.

We relied on RVP last year as the "get out of jail free card". The magic player who could change a game himself. Unfortunately, we now have to rely on the team, playing as a team. And when components of that team don't work, the team breaks down. And much as I give props to Arteta, he's no RVP / Cesc / World Class Player.

[Gervinho's Forehead]

Arteta awful sideways passer.

[Kano]

I get what you're saying, but Diaby, Cesc and Rosicky never played the role that Arteta is currently playing for us. Diaby was abismal as the player to sit back.

Song looked better, but why? For me it was because last year, Arteta and Song were interchangeable. When Song went forward, Arteta stayed back.

He may not be producing in an attacking sense, but he's the most diciplined we have there, and has saved our arses a few times this year, even if he has let some past him. Now that Song has pissed off, there is nobody who is interchangeable. He's all we have. And as Rosicky and Diaby have been out, Jack has had to slot in as the ball carrier.

The problem we have is the link player who carries the ball forward. Hopefully Rosicky can do it for a few games before falling over again, but that's where we need to invest money. Not replacing Arteta.

moutinho. shame he costs so f much

[Özim]

Arteta is waste as a DM, he's a creative player and was a decent one at Everton, I don't understand using him in that role it totally nullifies his strengths.

[Gervinho's Forehead]

Arteta is waste as a DM, he's a creative player and was a decent one at Everton, I don't understand using him in that role it totally nullifies his strengths.

You know who our manager is right?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

moutinho. shame AVB is buying him in jan

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Arteta is waste as a DM, he's a creative player and was a decent one at Everton, I don't understand using him in that role it totally nullifies his strengths.

Time for M'Vila tbh.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

You know who our manager is right?

Well i did, not sure who this guy Claming to be Wenger is tbh.

[Power n Glory]

I just don't know anymore. You're right about playing on the half turn. Deffo.

On the one hand I want to stick up for him, as I think he's done a sterling job for us over the last year or so. Certainly last season, and early doors this.

But when all is said and done. Is he good enough? I think he's an intellegent player. But is he quick enough, especially when the "out ball" is being cut off.

From what I've seen just recently, nobody has been showing for the ball. There is no movement in the team. Nothing. And it's very hard for a player to play out from the back, when the rest of the team don't work hard enough for you, or (as is the case with "some" players) are just plain shit.

We relied on RVP last year as the "get out of jail free card". The magic player who could change a game himself. Unfortunately, we now have to rely on the team, playing as a team. And when components of that team don't work, the team breaks down. And much as I give props to Arteta, he's no RVP / Cesc / World Class Player.

Agree, I don't think it's just one individual player that's the problem. All three midfield players are struggling and we only get width from Walcott because Pod does nothing but it won't take long for teams to figure out they need to double up on Walcott to stop him and then out wing play suffers.

It's a huge mess. If Rosicky plays again, maybe we'll see a difference.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

Well i did, not sure who this guy Claming to be Wenger is tbh.