Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Gabriel Jesus is a striker too?

How many strikers have we seen move this summer?
Zlatan
Higauin
Janssen
Milik
Gabriel Barbosa?
Gabriel Jesus
Yedder
Batshuayi
Gameiro.....

Anyone else?

Possibly Fernando Llorente now as well

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Personally I've always felt Theo is most effective from the right. I don't think he's anywhere near good enough to lead the line, far too one dimensional and not savvy enough in tight areas.

Sure he's had some decent performances up top but you can probably count those on one hand. For me his most consistent and productive football has come from the right. RVC wouldn't have had the season he did in 11/12 if it wasn't for Theo.

Bottom line for me though is that, well, he's just not very good and 6, 7, 8 years on we shouldn't still be talking about his role. He's had his chances. I'd sell him if the right offer came in. Lost count of the amount of times I've sat in the stands and completely forgot he was on the pitch, he was the butt of all jokes every game I went to last season. No one takes him seriously anymore.

In fairness you may be able to count the games he's had at CF in recent years on only two hands. I think he is only slightly less limited a CF than Giroud is in the context of the squad we actually have.

Giroud, despite his finger wagging whilst rolling on the ground is fairly robust and unlikely to sustain the type or frequency of injury incurred by speed/power players. That has aided his case.

[Power n Glory]

Personally I've always felt Theo is most effective from the right. I don't think he's anywhere near good enough to lead the line, far too one dimensional and not savvy enough in tight areas.

Sure he's had some decent performances up top but you can probably count those on one hand. For me his most consistent and productive football has come from the right. RVC wouldn't have had the season he did in 11/12 if it wasn't for Theo.

Bottom line for me though is that, well, he's just not very good and 6, 7, 8 years on we shouldn't still be talking about his role. He's had his chances. I'd sell him if the right offer came in. Lost count of the amount of times I've sat in the stands and completely forgot he was on the pitch, he was the butt of all jokes every game I went to last season. No one takes him seriously anymore.

Just to add on Walcott, I still don't think he's been given a fair chance up front. He played the majority of last season on the wings and that's where we was at his worst. Anonymous performances and embarrassing at times. He has his work cut out for him if he wants to claim that position back because he really lost it last season. I'm the reverse I think he's had long enough playing there to say enough is enough.

When playing as striker, it's not as if his performances tailed off and we needed to bench him. Far from it. He played a total of 11 games as striker last season. It's not a lot.

- Chelsea - Community Shield - set up a goal but struggled to get into game.
- Newcastle - Struggled again. 0-0
- Stoke. It was a better performance. Scored the opening goal we win 2-0
- Zagreb - We lost 2-1. Theo subbed on but scored.
- Chelsea we struggled with 10 men.
- Leicester City - Good performance and made it 1-1 when losing. Win 5-1
- Olympiacos - Lose 3-2. Theo scores one and gets an assist.
- Man Utd - 2 assist for Theo, best performance of the season.
- Watford 3-0 quiet game for Theo.
- Bayern - 2-0 always dangerous on the counter. Good game.

Then he picks up an injury and spends the rest of the season playing LW/RW with only one game as striker in the FA Cup against Hull.

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/theo-.../0?saison=2015

It's really not a lot of games. As ever, he gets injured and that slows the momentum but it's not as if he went on a run of games up front where he was woeful. He never had 3 back to back games of bad performances where he produced nothing at all. On the wings, we saw plenty of that. I think his career is over if he goes back on the flanks. He'd need a complete shift in mentality and get back to attacking wing back, taking them on and not just trying play off the shoulder. He needs to buck up his ideas. Still not sure why Wenger wants to develop him as a winger and gives him back to back games there after bad performances but up front he's not really given the same chance.

[Power n Glory]

In fairness you may be able to count the games he's had at CF in recent years on only two hands. I think he is only slightly less limited a CF than Giroud is in the context of the squad we actually have.

Giroud, despite his finger wagging whilst rolling on the ground is fairly robust and unlikely to sustain the type or frequency of injury incurred by speed/power players. That has aided his case.

Agreed. Was just comparing the stats in my previous post and thinking back to the season. He doesn't play a lot of games up front. He seems to get one window of opportunity gets dropped for the rest of the season once that's over. It's just as he's warming up as well. I think back to 2012/13 the only other time he had a run in the team he gets dropped after one bad game against City. But he got an assist against Stoke (a goal in Wenger's book ) and a hat trick with two assists in the previous game against Newcastle. Why so quick to shift from that position as he's finding form?

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/theo-.../0?saison=2012

[Özim]

Let's not forget Wellington Silva. But we just got rid of him. Ohhh and Sanchez! There has to be more?

We seem to only go for more defensive players from that side of the world. I'm guessing it's a lot to do with their technique on the ball.

That's really odd because countries like Brazil are known for attacking football not defensive football.

We never really seem to go for the right players, Wenger has a poor record with South American players, we never seem interested in the top up and coming talent, usually these top young players from Brazil turn out to be very good, players like Neymar etc.

Somehow though we always manage to go cheap and sign players like, Denilson, Wellington who don't cut it, problem is we don't want to pay up for the top young talent.

I agree with Maestro, Brazil is the place for top attacking talent, they've produce an endless list of stars, instead we choose Japan who have barely had a star player, Nakata was perhaps the pick of them.

If someone signs that Barbosa guy, or that player City signed turns out to be top class, we'll just be watching with envy again. Would really love to have a top Brazilian attacking player for a change, just think they are magical to watch with their dribbling, finishing, passing and clever play.

[Power n Glory]

That's really odd because countries like Brazil are known for attacking football not defensive football.

We never really seem to go for the right players, Wenger has a poor record with South American players, we never seem interested in the top up and coming talent, usually these top young players from Brazil turn out to be very good, players like Neymar etc.

Somehow though we always manage to go cheap and sign players like, Denilson, Wellington who don't cut it, problem is we don't want to pay up for the top young talent.

I agree with Maestro, Brazil is the place for top attacking talent, they've produce an endless list of stars, instead we choose Japan who have barely had a star player, Nakata was perhaps the pick of them.

If someone signs that Barbosa guy, or that player City signed turns out to be top class, we'll just be watching with envy again. Would really love to have a top Brazilian attacking player for a change, just think they are magical to watch with their dribbling, finishing, passing and clever play.

Typical Wenger isn't it. Always looking for the undervalued so who else is more undervalued than Brazilian defensive players? I swear he does this sort of thing just to be different and break new ground. Leave his mark on the game as some pioneer.

[fakeyank]

Leave his mark on the game as some paneer.

[Keith]

I'm guessing Theo's comments have come as he's been told who we're in the market for and knows it's either flanks or leave

[Özim]

Typical Wenger isn't it. Always looking for the undervalued so who else is more undervalued than Brazilian defensive players? I swear he does this sort of thing just to be different and break new ground. Leave his mark on the game as some pioneer.

Yeah it is, like you say he always wants to be different, even when doing so is a very foolish thing to do. Be nice when we have someone in charge who makes the logical choices rather than the ones noone else makes.

[Niall_Quinn]

Typical Wenger isn't it. Always looking for the undervalued so who else is more undervalued than Brazilian defensive players? I swear he does this sort of thing just to be different and break new ground. Leave his mark on the game as some pioneer.

He's been eyeing up another Brazilian defender in this window too. Can't remember the name now, saw it in passing, did a head slap, moved on.