Good Bye RVP!

[GP]

Yes, alex ferguson bowed to rooney! Unbelievable some of the things that get said on here.

Rooney said what he said to attempt to get a pay rise.

He then got a pay rise.

Difficult one, this...

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Yes, alex ferguson bowed to rooney! Unbelievable some of the things that get said on here.

Well isn't that actually what happened though?....Stretford got Rooney to say he wanted to leave when he didn't....and used it as a bluff to get the club to agree to his wage demands. He doesn't do it often, but Ferguson felt he couldn't do without Rooney (albeit a dangerously off form Rooney at the time) in his team so gave in to him.
Not saying we should have done that by the way, we should have let Van Persie run down his contract....because if we are not going to spend the cash we get for him on a replacement than we might as well keep him.

[Marc Overmars]

Thing is, I don't begrduge him wanting to leave. It's been hugely frustrating few years for the club, so on a professional level I get why someone of his ability might fancy a change. The sad thing was his statement, not only making our position untenable but to deride the club itself and then try to fob the fans off with his sentimental bullshit.

We didn't like the manner in which Cesc left last year but he wasn't a disingenuous prick, he never said a word out of respect for the club and that's how RVC should have conducted himself instead of engineering the bloody thing in public.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Of course we sold him. I've already explained why I think we have. Age, contract, injury record, good deal.......and there is the added twattery that RVC added himself. As club captain, he chose to make his position at the club untenable.

Following his statement, most fans wanted him pissed off out of the club.


A question for you:

What would you have said if we'd flogged him to Juve for 12mil, and SAF came out and said they offered 24mil??

Re your second point, *sigh*.

If they pip us to the title, then fair do's to them. Stop expecting us to cover every base. There is no perfect club out there. There is no perfect team. We just get behind them. That's what we do.

I'd have preferred the Juve option. O would also have preferred another season out of him, if only to prevent it strengthening a direct rival.

With the signings made we could be in with a shout of the title, but now we've managed to shoot both feet with one bullet, weakening our team and making it more likely United win the title

I also do not like the message it sends out. If he had seen out his contracy and went there, then that was his own business, but he'd be another year older and they'd still have to offer him a stupid contract.

All that said, I sincerely hope he has the playing record he had with us over the first seven seasons we stood by this greedy cu.nt

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[Marc Overmars]

We waited 7 years for him to become the player we all knew he had ability to be. First chance he gets to fuck off and he's gone.

You know what you are, you know what you arrrree, Robin Van Persie, you know what you are.

After this saga, I don't trust any **** that plays for us anymore. If only Jack wasn't dead, now there was a filthy little GHEL we could all put our faith in.

[gooners]

Rooney said what he said to attempt to get a pay rise.

He then got a pay rise.

Difficult one, this...

Ferguson bowed to rooney and gave him an inflated raise -- oh dear. Or rooney was right -- united's squad the past two seasons have been shit! And, he was given the necessary assurances. Hence the splash on RVP?

But I suppose looking at it that way wont, fit the 'players are greedy' mantra

[GP]

Ferguson bowsed to rooney and gave him an inflate raise

I'm glad we could clear that up.

[LDG]

We waited 7 years for him to become the player we all knew he had ability to be. First chance he gets to fuck off and he's gone.

You know what you are, you know what you arrrree, Robin Van Persie, you know what you are.

After this saga, I don't trust any **** that plays for us anymore. If only Jack wasn't dead, now there was a filthy little GHEL we could all put our faith in.

[Letters]

*wonders when Utd play Stoke*
Come on, Shawcross. You know what to do.

[IBK]

From my perspective it's not like that. Obviously I would've liked RVP to extend his contract but I'm realistic that we can't compete with other interested clubs in terms of wages. But my explanation for wanting to keep for this year is more about the club taking a stand to these players that are able to freely get their desired move every summer (and other reasons I've made on previous posts about wanting to cut the gap at the top). Even the spuds seem to put up a bigger resistance than us - they got Bale to sign, and kept Modric last summer (although he seems off this time). Bale's no Van Persie, but then against Tottenham are no Arsenal, with playing history and CL football, we still have the bigger pull, so in relative terms it's a similar scenario. I think we've caved in to the demands of a spoilt brat. And I really wanted us not to do that even if he would then move to Man Utd or City or whoever next season. We've shown ourselves to be lacking character in a big way IMO.

Don't really want to moan about it any more - just really hoping the club do make at least one good addition and I hope, as Lee Dixon says, the biggest signing of the summer is Steve Bould. Individually, we have a great set of defenders but if Bould can get us to keep a better shape, we'll be much improved.

I understand the argument, but realistically I don't think keeping RVP would have worked. Difference between him and Rooney is that RVP was the captain, longest serving and most influential player at our club. No matter how professional people think he might have been, I don't buy that a pissed off, want away player would perform anythiong like how he did last season. You might say that his decision that he wanted away was made before the end of the season and he still produced, but I think that he would have had the motivation to maximise his final contract (perhaps with us - more likely elsewhere). It would be inhuman not to. I think it would have been a very different proposition to maintain his mojo for a whole season while he felt he was being kept against his will and would be 30 years old once the season finished. Not to mention that he would have had to be stripped of the armband.

We saw this with Adebayor when he had his stand out season - and he'd been rewarded with a fat new contract!

AW has a habit of getting rid of players who don't buy into his vision, whether rightly or wrongly. IMO - it sends out just as much of a message that if you screw with the club you are sold - at a price that suits AFC - as it does to keep an unhappy player - with all the potential for corroding the harmony of the team.