Aaron Ramsey - How overrated has he turned out to be????

[Newguy]

Massively overrated thats how overrated!!!

What a shocking player. He is completely wrong for our midfield and i just dont see a future for him at Arsenal.

Firstly he is shockingly slow. Im at a gasp at times, because he seems to be running through mud. The kids got no pace, I thought Cesc was slow, but he at least made up for his lack of pace (which did improve) with great balance, Ramsey has none of that.

He lacks agility. When he receives the ball with his back to goal (facing his defenders), he's unable to change direction quick enough so it's constanlty slowing down the play, he hasnt got the skill to let the ball run across him, he hasnt got the tecnhinque to be able to make that 90 to 180 degree turn to get the ball moving forward as quickly as possible. Reminds me of Denilson.

The fucking flicks and tricks. WTF is up with this clown??? He's doing back heels, in the worst positions possible and losing possession then he doesnt even have the gas to track back (another classic Denilson trait)

His passing is poor and lacks zip, his long passing is ok, but it's not enough to be effective in this Arsenal side.

Bottom line....he's not needed and once Jack's back, whats left for Ramsey. Coquelin and Frimpong have more potential as central midfield prospects.

Ramsey = Overrated

(so glad I've got that off my chest)

[Marc Overmars]

He had good patch of form when we got our season back on track in the Autumn but generally he has been very average.

It's the silly little backheels and flicks that get to me most. It also annoys me how he struts around thinking he's some sort of seasoned playmaker. No, you're a Welsh pub teamer and don't ever forget that.

Unfortunatley we wouldn't even be talking about this guy if Jack was still alive.

[Niall_Quinn]

This kid is going to be one of our stars - you just watch and wait. 2013-14 will be his year - you can laugh now but I can see him being the standout midfielder in Europe. I predict he'll add goals to his game too, at a guess and based on my experience of the game I'd say he'll have around 13 goals by December in the 2013 season (including a great solo effort against Norwich). There will come a time when Ramsey will be our player of the month, month after month after month. Yes go ahead and laugh - I'll be proved right.

[Ollie the Optimist]

tbf to the lad he had his leg snapped in two and had to come back from that just when i thought he was really hitting form with us and then he was overplayed and hasnt recovered from it.

deserves a break so hopefully has one this summer, comes back fit and healthy and we should see a massive improvement. if no improvement next season then get rid.

[Power n Glory]

The 90 to 180 disagree turn thing and being so slow on the turn is why he has no business starting. If you haven't got the technique or awareness to do that sort of thing then he's no good to us. Has nothing to do with his injury or fatigue either because this is a partly a mental thing. He anticipate what to do next when he receives the ball and even before the leg break he'd do stupid flicks or make dangerous passes the hen under pressure.

When I first saw Cesc, I was impressed with that side of his game. Young but he protected the ball, was able to turn hisar then ping off a ball to a player in open space, then move to look for space and the next pass. Song can do it, Wilshere can do it, Rosicky can do it...the players that rely get caught in possession or need to draw a foul when a players close.

Ramsey hasn't got that instinct and doesn't have that vision or quick decision making ability. Shame really.

[Tipsychubbs]

Needs a full season's loan to get back to the level he was pre-injury. He's not ready for the 1st team at the moment. Still has potential, so can't to write him off yet.

[Globalgunner]

Please stop using his broken leg 2 years ago as an excuse Ramsey is slow and has always been slow. Antonio Valencia had his leg broken and came back maybe even better without losing pace. Then again it is well known that our medical team are the worst in the EPL and our head groundsman doubles as the club doctor. Our backroom staff is crap, (btw so is the manager).<br> <br>Really though, I think the problem is the psychology. The players always think they are the walking wounded and doubt that they are properly healed, this plays on their minds and they are afraid to fully exert themselves or jump into tackles. Diaby is a prime example of this. His explosion against Barton at Newcastle after been tackled was an example of a player being overly precious, he just doesnt want to be involved in any high impact confrontation again (except where JTs head is involved).<br><br>Ramsey would have been better off going to ManU instead of choosing us at least there he could have learnt at the feet of the great Michael Carrick

[Ernesto]

Hmm, I think it's more to do with the philosophy of how we play more than anything. Had Ramsey been at any mid-table team, or even a Newcastle, he'd have been getting plaudits by now, with many a 'pundit' wondering why one of the bigger clubs hadn't snapped him up.

Back to the philosophy thing (very cut-and-shut post, this!) If we didn't decide to play with the tippy-tappy, sideways-passing, better-safe-than-sorry Wengerball, Ramsey may well be winning more aerial challenges, more 50-50s and taking more meaningful shots at goal. In actual fact, I don't think he's doing much more wrong than both Arteta and Song, yet those two midfielders have, by general consensus, had a successful season

If you threw in Wilshere next to Ramsey, I'm dead certain he'd evolve as a player (a little like the maturing-pear effect!)

Give him time. The jury's not out on him just yet, and I don't believe he's turned into the shocking shell of a player we were once promised a la Bendtner and Denilson.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Injured seems to have made him worse tbh, needs to be loaned out next season or sold but one thing is clear he should not be in our team next season.

But wenger loves him for some reason so i won't jold my breath.

[The Verminator]

As has already been said, he was doing well before his horror injury. Now he's too far below par to be considered for regular football. I agree that loaning him out for a season would be wise.