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    Doubt he'll be sold next month but as his stock continues to rise, I'm sure his agent is putting the feelers out. Don't be fooled into thinking certain clubs don't need him, he'll be a wanted man for sure.

    If he does sign a new deal with us, I bet it will be for a lot more than we could have had him for 6 months ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost of Christmas View Post
    Unfortunately for that Ronaldo, I don't think he was ever fit enough for long enough to have that same kind of influence. And by current standards his best goalscoring season, was quite slim in comparison (even though it was 47), he did however score lots of goals right from the start of his career.

    You can mention all the other guys that have been very good in what I am saying is now a forward role but neither of them have achieved the same amount of goals that Ronaldo and Messi have and for season after season. That's the difference and that's wherein their influence over football lies.

    Plus back in those times, 4-4-2 wasn't played with as much paucity as it is now; football has clearly changed since 1996-1997.

    You only have to look at Spain now to see how largely irrelevant the role of what was expected of a traditional striker has become.
    Nah, you can't forget the original Ronaldo and his influence. Even though Ronaldo's Inter and Barca days were short, he changed the expectations for a forward. He was the prototype. It was all Fox in the box/Poacher type strikers and he was the one that started dropping deep, drifting wide and moving all over the pitch to confuse defenders. His dribbling on the ball....an absolute beast.

    After the injury he adapted his game to more like a traditional striker but before that he was the originator. Messi and Ronadlo...great players who have helped redefine the role of a forward/striker but buck tooth Ronnie was that guy! If he hadn't have had those injuries....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Nah, you can't forget the original Ronaldo and his influence. Even though Ronaldo's Inter and Barca days were short, he changed the expectations for a forward. He was the prototype. It was all Fox in the box/Poacher type strikers and he was the one that started dropping deep, drifting wide and moving all over the pitch to confuse defenders. His dribbling on the ball....an absolute beast.

    After the injury he adapted his game to more like a traditional striker but before that he was the originator. Messi and Ronadlo...great players who have helped redefine the role of a forward/striker but buck tooth Ronnie was that guy! If he hadn't have had those injuries....
    The difference as I mention and as you kind of infer is that Ronaldo was always that guy, that goalscorer. Messi and Ronaldo in comparison became those guys comparitively later on. And it's not about forgetting about him, I just don't think he has left a legacy in the same way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost of Christmas View Post
    The difference as I mention and as you kind of infer is that Ronaldo was always that guy, that goalscorer. Messi and Ronaldo in comparison became those guys comparitively later on. And it's not about forgetting about him, I just don't think he has left a legacy in the same way.
    Once the smoke and dust has settled, then we can talk legacy. It's too fresh to talk about now. Messi, as great as he is, people still question whether he'd be able to do what he's doing outside of Spain and Barca. As for Ronaldo...he's turned into a complete beast in Spain. He had that crazy season for United but we was never an unstoppable force.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNamara That Ghost of Christmas View Post
    The difference as I mention and as you kind of infer is that Ronaldo was always that guy, that goalscorer. Messi and Ronaldo in comparison became those guys comparitively later on. And it's not about forgetting about him, I just don't think he has left a legacy in the same way.
    I think you're spot on and it shouldn't matter where Theo plays from the start because if he is given the freedom (as he is) to roam everywhere (as our front 4/5 often do) then the chances will appear anyway. he has always been a good finisher but his maturing and understanding of the game really grew through last season and he has naturally taken that on after some decent showings at the euro's. once he adds a bit more technique to his all round game he will have everything needed to regularly score 20+ a season.

    the only thing that may screw him up are those persistent injuries that keep breaking up his seasons.

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    Agree about the forwards being fluid, not having rigid positions.

    That's exactly why all this talk of playing as a striker has always been bogus.

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    Another top player sold when they are showing signs of turning into a world beater!
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    He should start every match in the middle of the front 3 and thus he will have license to roam wide on the left or right. If he starts on the right, hes stuck on the right which he clearly doesnt want to be plus add the defensive side which is greater than if he is in the middle. Fair enough that everyone must put a shift in defensively but ultimately you want your best attacking players to be in a position to hurt the opposition.

    Theo is our best striker, of that there is no more doubt. The fact he is also our best winger should be seen as a bonus for him

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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    Another top player sold when they are showing signs of turning into a world beater!
    yep.

    i honestly think he'll beat henry's record if he stays here.

    big statement but i think it can be done. just needs patience and time.

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    Hope he beats it.

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