Ha ha - understood. Its interesting how low our transfers are compared to other EPL teams with CL aspirations.Originally Posted by BoringBoringArsenal
Ha ha - understood. Its interesting how low our transfers are compared to other EPL teams with CL aspirations.
Putting the laughter back into manslaughter
Wonder if he's losing his nerve though - now he is tapping second tier 'established' players, and fucking up badly with his punts...
Putting the laughter back into manslaughter
Yep when you factor in wages we're pretty way down in terms of value for money I suspect which makes some of the board/Wenger claims of financial prudence ridiculous. We have the fourth highest wage bill in the country, not that far off Man United's and when you note down the difference in performance on the pitch then you realise just the sheer scale of wastage there is on the books. I'm not sure if one exists already but someone really needs to compile a joint Transfer Fee + Wage chart for easy comparison.
I'd also add in the likes of Diaby, Denilson, Djourou & Bendtner as other waste who are essentially getting paid to do nothing.
With regards to the original question, in terms of whether Wenger getting it wrong more often then not when it comes to player transfers, it's really hard to say as EVERY manager has their share of duds. Even Ferguson: Kleberson, Djemba Djemba, Veron, Bebe, Miller (lol new Keane) etc etc. It's impossible to determine accurately in terms of number of duds without actually carrying out some significant transfer analysis of the past twenty years which I can't be bothered to do.
However the problem with our duds compared to say duds at quite a few other clubs is that we foolishly give them lavish contracts which makes them harder to get rid of once they arrive. Furthermore Wenger often persists with his dud signings a lot longer than other managers. For example I could never see Ferguson persisting with Denilison for as long as Wenger did, likewise Santos & Arshavin would have been out of the door a lot faster under him once their incompetence and unfitness for PL level football was established. These two things combined make our duds more noticeable I believe which may give the impression that we have a lot more duds compared to others.
bit silly to throw in oxlade and arteta as money wasted. ox is far too early to write off and most fans saw arteta as a decent enough player last term. he's far from alone this year in having his problems.
I think he is. He has bought players that just aren't suitable to our style of play. Some aren't that bad and have some uses. Bendy, Giroud, Chamakh....unless we're playing a counter attacking style with fast wingers, these guys were never going to flourish.
It used to be a case of players needing a full year to get used to the league and pace but now that's just not true.
Harsh to put Mert in there. Arteta has been shit since he joined
Every club has their share of hits and misses but the quality of our team has steadily declined, which suggests either the signings are plain not good enough or the manager is unable to get the best out of the team.
Either way, we've wasted a lot for a club who prides itself on being economic.
Last edited by Marc Overmars; 26-02-2013 at 10:22 PM.
Agreed on the Arteta bit. Really a pointless player who should have finished his days at some pub team.
Mert is also a bit shitte too tbh, tall and lanky but can't jumb higher than any Spanish midget, neither can he outpace a caterpillar.
Yep, this.
IF we are considered to be a top club, then we buy a lot of shit players who we depend on. Utd has bought a fair share of garbage but they always have someone to cover up their arses and minimize the shit show. We sell our best and buy absolute junk, so our junk stinks more, since its always out in the open.
Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..
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