We'd have to get relegated before Wenger walks. He'll do whatever it takes, regardless of the cost to the club, to stay in charge here. Making his life as much of a misery as it is possible to make it is the only way to get him out, and even then he's so delusional he probably thinks everyone is cheering him.Originally Posted by selassie
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Sadly that's the point I've reached as well.
He's untouchable, last season showed that, he'll stay as long as he wants to and he wants to stay for the foreseeable future.
I have been preaching this for over 5 years now. Been called out by 'real Arsenal fans' as someone who is a spud or a chav because of this. This club needs to sink lower before it gets better. No point getting top 4 or going on a 10 game unbeaten run.. its pointless. The ONLY way things will change is if things go down south real fast. Frankly anything other than relegation is fine with me. If you guarantee me a 17th place this season, I'll take it and happily take that as the end of the season!
Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..
I can't agree with this.
We finished outside of the top four last year, fan unrest was at it highest and it was the final year of Wenger's contract .............. things would have been ripe for bidding farewell to Wenger and offering it to a new person and yet Kroneke (from what is rumoured Gazidis was happy for someone else to take over out but Kroneke was insistent) wanted him to stay and didn't exactly hide his eagerness for that. I mean the majority of the fanbase (of course there are a few Wenger or nothing fans but they are an extreme minority) would have accepted and it still didn't happen.
Hence why I categorically don't support the "let's lose so Wenger goes" arguments - he's literally not going anywhere even if we finish mid table. It'll only take a relegation and even then I wouldn't be at all surprise if Kroneke thought he was the right man to steer us back into the PL.
That atmosphere and mood around the club is already poisonous and depressing as it is - let's not make it worse by accumulating pointless losses just for zero gain (I speak as if I have the actual option to chose one or the other lol). As long as we win things I don't care who's in charge.
As long as the American parasite is hear nothing is going to change I'm afraid. After Wenger we'll probably get another "yes man" appointed who'll care more about financial security and keeping the club stable rather than winning trophies. So I direct 90% of my anger and fury at our mess to Kroenke - he needs to fuck off and the it's about time the fans started holding up banners for his exit instead of Wengers.
Yep. Felt nothing when we beat Leicester (aside from winning some money on a bet I made) and felt nothing after seeing the result today.
Absolutely no chance am I hopping back on this oh so predictable merry-go-round until I feel there is substantional change afoot. With that bloke here for another 2 years I imagine it will be a while still.
It's the hope that kills you and we were killed a long time ago! I've even surprised myself with how strong my apathy is right now.
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I can't say I feel nothing. I did follow the Leicester game a little bit via the BBC, was genuinely irritated when I saw we'd gone 2-3 down and genuinely pleased when I saw we'd won and it induced me to watch the highlights. Yesterday I didn't follow it at all, a friend WhatsApp'd me at the end. His message didn't say the score but implied it was business as usual which made me think we'd lost so I did then look up the score. But it didn't ruin my day. Genuinely not that fussed any more. Will keep an eye on things this year as I did last but I won't be following it closely. Have no idea who we are playing next or when and won't be watching whoever it is.
Same old same old, we know the problem, nothing is ever going to change, awful transfer window, no changes since last season, every other club makes changes when things aren't working....but not this club we just give the manager a new contracts and spend all summer doing precious little other than watching players go here and go there.
Noone can say they are surprised by this, we've got a 2nd rate manager, players who don't want to be at the club anymore and an unwillingness to spend money.
I genuinely think we won't be worrying about a fight for fourth this season.
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Does 4th show spirit and respect if you are 5th or 6th? Can you say, we are 5th and then say you should be 4th? Is it respectful to be 6th, to the spirit of the players and the game? Or is the culture more important, is it ideal for the spirit to be respectful?
These are the important questions Wenger must answer.
In his little world.
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