Ozil - Do we need him?

[Kano]

I think that's nonsense tbf.

How real the documents are I don't know but they are part of the millions that were apparently leaked that has put pressure on Maureen and Ronnie for their tax shenanigans.

"The documents show Ozil earns a basic Arsenal salary of 10.2million euros a year. He gets 1.8m euros for each season the Gunners qualify for the Champions League group stages plus another 1.2m euros a year as a signing-on bonus. On top of that, Arsenal pay an additional 1,476,095 euros a year to his Dusseldorf company Ozil Marketing GmbH — which owns his image rights — as part of an agreement that they would pay him a guaranteed annual salary of 8,077,000 euros net of tax. £12,529,000 a year."

Quite a bit of dosh. It makes sense because all player contracts run through an amortisation process. There are documents knocking around online but again, we have to take these guys word they are real. No reason to think they aren't really.

[Power n Glory]

Losing track on what on earth the debate is about now, but that is just plainly wrong.

Financially replacing Sanchez would prove most difficult.

100% wrong.

The cost of strikers have gone right through the roof. Higauin's transfer says it all.

[Power n Glory]

Cesc doesnt have the legs Ozil has.

The movement Ozil has really helps Alexis a lot. This season for instance, Ozil is not really playing the #10. He is and Alexis are playing as dual false 9s most of the time with Alexis and is often time furthest player forward for Arsenal in front of him on the pass charts and heat maps.

They both need each other but Ozil's play is a big reason for Alexis' form and he has sacrificed a lot of his playmaking to accommodate Alexis. (which is why he is scoring more goals now)

And on top of that, Ozil is the most unique player in world football. You dont replace him. There is no cheap alternative out there. Its literally Ozil and thats it.

Its easy to miss out what Ozil is doing because the English speakiing media inundated with Ray Wilkins types.

Yep, still stand by Cesc being the better player. Midweek games sum it up.

[Letters]

You can't base that opinion on one off games PnG - I'm sure you're not, but you can't present that as definitive proof.

[Niall_Quinn]

And I stand by the obvious observation that Cesc was introduced to and played in a much more organised team when Le Crackpot still retained some of his marbles. A younger Cesc would struggle mightily in the tippy tappy hell that has been built over the last few seasons. Then again, so would Messi. So would anyone. It really doesn't matter who was or is better. All that matters is we get rid of the idiot who is an anchor dragging on every player that wears the shirt.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

And I stand by the obvious observation that Cesc was introduced to and played in a much more organised team when Le Crackpot still retained some of his marbles. A younger Cesc would struggle mightily in the tippy tappy hell that has been built over the last few seasons. Then again, so would Messi. So would anyone. It really doesn't matter who was or is better. All that matters is we get rid of the idiot who is an anchor dragging on every player that wears the shirt.

The tippy tappy hell was made to facilitate cesc and actually our style of play changed very much from the days when we won titles to become a Barcelona/Spain Lite with Fabregas as the heart of the team. Fabregas used to annoy me because there was a constant need for him to pass the ball just for the sake of it even when there wasn't a pass on, Ozil is similarly afflicted by this.

I watched both players at the Emirates and there with both a breathtaking ability to read the game and know where their team mates will be without seeing them, out of the two I prefer Ozil but that's bias on my part and could also be that Ozil when he first came here stood out as the most technically gifted in the squad.

Fabregas is a slightly different player at Chelsea and he plays in a far more efficient system, if we swapped them i think the difference between what he offers to Arsenal and what Ozil offers would be marginal at best.

[Power n Glory]

You can't base that opinion on one off games PnG - I'm sure you're not, but you can't present that as definitive proof.

You're right. I haven't based that off one game. But that one game is a snap shot. I'm not presenting it as definitive proof. It just sums up why I prefer a player like Cesc. He steps up on the big occasions more often and can turn a 7 out 10 performance into an 8 or 9 with a goal out of nowhere or a crazy pass like he did the other week for Costa. I just don’t see that from Ozil.

[Niall_Quinn]

You're right. I haven't based that off one game. But that one game is a snap shot. I'm not presenting it as definitive proof. It just sums up why I prefer a player like Cesc. He steps up on the big occasions more often and can turn a 7 out 10 performance into an 8 or 9 with a goal out of nowhere or a crazy pass like he did the other week for Costa. I just don’t see that from Ozil.

You seriously must just shut your eyes when Ozil gets the ball.

[Power n Glory]

And I stand by the obvious observation that Cesc was introduced to and played in a much more organised team when Le Crackpot still retained some of his marbles. A younger Cesc would struggle mightily in the tippy tappy hell that has been built over the last few seasons. Then again, so would Messi. So would anyone. It really doesn't matter who was or is better. All that matters is we get rid of the idiot who is an anchor dragging on every player that wears the shirt.

I think you've lost your marbles. Cesc is tippy tappy! He's the original blueprint!

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I think you've lost your marbles. Cesc is tippy tappy! He's the original blueprint!

Definitely