Good Bye RVP!

[Ollie the Optimist]

On £90k a week I think. Or was it £70k? Cesc and Henry earned more than him while they were here and then we have the issue with his counterparts at rival clubs. They earn double and none of them were PFA players last year either. Would you stay on £90k a week and you're approaching 30 when a rival club that can actually win something and won't sell off key players every year are offering to double your wages?

if you spend 7 years telling the world you are an arsenal fan, release pictures of you as a kid wearing the kit and then again this year a loyal fucking fan would pay his team to play, he would stay for 90k.

[Power n Glory]

so graham hunter has just done an interview where he says this

http://media.newstalk.ie/listenback/...niqueID=405786 link for it.



so he whored himself out without our permission etc. kind of shows what a **** he is and that wenger and the board are blameless

What do you think was said after we sold Cesc, Clichy and Nasri in one window? Nobody was happy and we knew this was on the cards. The burden was on the club to prove that we're a club capable of challenging for the title so they're not blameless.

[Newguy]

Maybe Wenger wanted to keep him, but could also see that he club doesnt crumble without him and he could get replacements in.

Lets not be niave...You know as a manager if one of your players will sign or not. Wenger is going to say we want to keep him to keep his stock as high as possible due to the statement from RvC knocked off 5-10 million that a foreign club would have paid (in this scenario the club knew he wouldnt sign but didnt think he would release such a statement)

In that scenario we may have wanted to sell him..bottom line is he's gone..it crazy to suggest that wages werent discussed because then RvP released a statement for no reason whatsoever as surely Podolski and Giroud are signs that we are trying to strengthen. It actually makes it more strange why the statement was brought out. Did we tell him that we were not signing any players (lie to him) to get him to release the statement then sign players afterwards to make him look silly???? Sounds a bit far fetched to me. Did he not rate the players we said we were bringing in? Sounds more likely especially as the statement was released after the 2 signings were made (I think).

During those talks before the signings and the statement I think we didnt want to (not couldnt afford) to pay 200k a week for a player coming off one good season and 7 injury plagued ones. Is he worth 200k for 4 yrs to us?? Not in my opinion, not after what i saw at the euros, but thats just me.

If Wenger bought Podolski and Giroud to replace RvC then it' becasue RvC wasnt going to sign...the statement regardless of what anyone thinks would piss off any club and I get the feeling Wenger thought fuck it if we get 20+ we'll sell you.

To say the statement means nothing is folly, he should have said nothing...I would have then been able to give him the same benefit of the doubt you are now...but I dont even care that much because he aint even an Arsenal player anymore...fuck it..i watched how we played with Cazorla, Podolski, Theo, Chamberlain and Giroud and we looked pretty capable. I saw how RvC looked when he came on and we looked pretty basic, an RvC like that would have been no good to us had we forced him to see out his contract and having to sell him to Juve for 12m because the punk releases a statement aint happening either because regardless of if we want him or not, he's worth more than that and we have to get the most for him.

[Ollie the Optimist]

What do you think was said after we sold Cesc, Clichy and Nasri in one window? Nobody was happy and we knew this was on the cards. The burden was on the club to prove that we're a club capable of challenging for the title so they're not blameless.

so its fine for our club captain to talk to our rivals when under contract with us to get himself a deal? ok then

[V-Pig]

There were lots of (genuinely) ITK posters on Twitter saying that once bonuses etc. were taken into account, RVP was paid a lot more than most people think.

[Power n Glory]

if you spend 7 years telling the world you are an arsenal fan, release pictures of you as a kid wearing the kit and then again this year a loyal fucking fan would pay his team to play, he would stay for 90k.

Really? So if Arsenal offered to pay you £3.50 an hour to play on a full time contract and you become one of the best players for the club, you'd stay on that and it's your main source of income?

[Letters]

It's very different. Ultimately whether moving for a pay rise is 'worth it' is dependent on preferences and there's no right answer. But the factors, and what you value, going for a payrise at £40k a year compared to £80k a week is likely to be far more favourable in an ethical sense. It all comes down to the marginal value of expenditure - obviously footballers would have a completely different reference point about an 'acceptable' lifestyle. But even taking that into account, for the large amount of money we are talking about, we reach a point where you can spend as much as you want, but the return on that money begins to slow because there's only so much you can't afford.

I get all that and don't entirely disagree, it's not going to make any difference to his lifestyle. But isn't there a principle of 'market rate' and feeling valued? And, frankly, he's gone to a club with far greater prospects of trophies than we have. For him it's not a bad move.

There are of course issues of loyalty to an employer who has stuck by him through persistent injury problems. I can't decide how big a part that should play in his decision. Would we show loyalty to a company who has given us the training/experience which has allowed us to get a better job?

[V-Pig]

Really? So if Arsenal offered to pay you £3.50 an hour to play on a full time contract and you become one of the best players for the club, you'd stay on that and it's your main source of income?

Don't equate £3.50 an hour to £90k a week. That's perverse.

[Ollie the Optimist]

Really? So if Arsenal offered to pay you £3.50 an hour to play on a full time contract and you become one of the best players for the club, you'd stay on that and it's your main source of income?

yes i would but thats me. as an arsenal fan i would give anything to play for htem, thats what van persie told us he was yet he decided to fuck us over. for 90k a week, any arsenal fan would play and not move imo, if they do move out of choice for more money and ot a rival then they are not a fan

[Letters]

Really? So if Arsenal offered to pay you £3.50 an hour to play on a full time contract and you become one of the best players for the club, you'd stay on that and it's your main source of income?

That's not really a valid comparison. When you're on £100k a week (or thereabouts) a pay rise isn't going to change your quality of life.