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Thread: Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

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    He played perfectly well in the same team as Coq and Santi in 2015.

    He's a definite starter this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobson's choice View Post
    Ramsey is player that really in some way handicaps this team. I really hope someone comes for him next summer.

    Him and this team is not a good match
    He only handicaps the team if you play him in the wrong position and expect him to do things which he's not capable of, which is what Wenger did for a lot of last season: try and use him as a Santi deputy when he clearly can't dictate the tempo like he can ....... which is why Wenger ultimately got in Elneny I suspect.

    As we've seen a few seasons ago and at the Euros, there's a quality player there who's extremely suited for English football that if used correctly could be devastating in terms of output.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico View Post
    He only handicaps the team if you play him in the wrong position and expect him to do things which he's not capable of, which is what Wenger did for a lot of last season: try and use him as a Santi deputy when he clearly can't dictate the tempo like he can ....... which is why Wenger ultimately got in Elneny I suspect.

    As we've seen a few seasons ago and at the Euros, there's a quality player there who's extremely suited for English football that if used correctly could be devastating in terms of output.
    What's the wrong position? He has a lot of energy but sometimes just lacks that polish. Inconsistent with his control, passing and finishing sometimes. He should be a CM but that hasn't worked out. A more advanced role in place of Cazorla or Ozil means we lose that final ball. But the positive is that we get someone willing to attack the box more and go for goal. But it would feel like we're missing a trick if we drop Ozil or Cazorla from that position if we play Sanchez or Walcott up front.

    On the right, I'd go with Campbell or Iwobi. Really not sure where his best position is but I think he'll make his own case if he plays well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    What's the wrong position? He has a lot of energy but sometimes just lacks that polish. Inconsistent with his control, passing and finishing sometimes. He should be a CM but that hasn't worked out. A more advanced role in place of Cazorla or Ozil means we lose that final ball. But the positive is that we get someone willing to attack the box more and go for goal. But it would feel like we're missing a trick if we drop Ozil or Cazorla from that position if we play Sanchez or Walcott up front.

    On the right, I'd go with Campbell or Iwobi. Really not sure where his best position is but I think he'll make his own case if he plays well.
    His best position is on Wengers lap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico View Post
    He only handicaps the team if you play him in the wrong position and expect him to do things which he's not capable of, which is what Wenger did for a lot of last season: try and use him as a Santi deputy when he clearly can't dictate the tempo like he can ....... which is why Wenger ultimately got in Elneny I suspect.

    As we've seen a few seasons ago and at the Euros, there's a quality player there who's extremely suited for English football that if used correctly could be devastating in terms of output.

    Hey, Ramsey is a luxury player who really isn't luxurious.

    My opinion, sooner he leaves, better this team will be, and he will be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    He played perfectly well in the same team as Coq and Santi in 2015.

    He's a definite starter this weekend.

    Agree to disagree

    Just doesn't fit with this squad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    What's the wrong position? He has a lot of energy but sometimes just lacks that polish. Inconsistent with his control, passing and finishing sometimes. He should be a CM but that hasn't worked out. A more advanced role in place of Cazorla or Ozil means we lose that final ball. But the positive is that we get someone willing to attack the box more and go for goal. But it would feel like we're missing a trick if we drop Ozil or Cazorla from that position if we play Sanchez or Walcott up front.

    On the right, I'd go with Campbell or Iwobi. Really not sure where his best position is but I think he'll make his own case if he plays well.
    Deep lying playmaker would definitely be the wrong position. He simply doesn't have the technical ability or composure on the ball that a Santi or Elneny has to function in the role. I think against weaker team at home he could play the role of CM alongside a passer Santi/Elneny as his work rate can compensate for the defensive muscle we'd lose but really, it needs to be on the right or behind the striker (like he does for Wales).

    At any rate, we were already down about twenty or thirty goals last season and additionally with the most likely possibility of yet another window without a striker being bought, we really could do with Ramsey hitting his goal scoring stride and chipping in with 15 goals this season. I mean as majestic as Ozil is, his goal return is frankly not good enough for his position. I really wouldn't mind seeing Ozil/Ramsey alternating depending on the opposition and or the injury situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobson's choice View Post
    Hey, Ramsey is a luxury player who really isn't luxurious.

    My opinion, sooner he leaves, better this team will be, and he will be.
    Midfielders with the goal return that Ramsey provides are an extremely valuable commodity and you want us get rid off him? For what? To get another tippy tappy midfielder who has great technical ability but couldn't put the ball into the net to save his life?

    The likes of Mourinho and Conte would bite your hand off to get a player of Ramsey's calibre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munchies View Post
    Didn't Wenger once say that he wanted the transfer window to be closed before the season started?

    Guy is so out of his depth it's unreal
    I don't have a problem with Wenger's view on that.

    What I do have a problem with (in amongst all my other problems with him) is his stubbornness.

    Everyone has been calling out for him to sign a striker. Those that love the club and those that hate the club have been saying it is critical that we sign one.

    But Wenger knows best and he is going to prove everyone wrong and will continue to try and do that, even when everyone has been proved right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico View Post
    Midfielders with the goal return that Ramsey provides are an extremely valuable commodity and you want us get rid off him? For what? To get another tippy tappy midfielder who has great technical ability but couldn't put the ball into the net to save his life?

    The likes of Mourinho and Conte would bite your hand off to get a player of Ramsey's calibre.
    Ramsey was probably the best player at the Euros. We saw how a competent manager with far fewer resources could get the best out of the player. It's very hard to get a read on any of our players considering who we have in charge.
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