Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

[alexander]

Ramsey was probably the best player at the Euros. We saw how a competent manager with far fewer resources could get the best out of the player. It's very hard to get a read on any of our players considering who we have in charge.

There seems to be a fair bit of hatred for ramsey on here at times. Ive always thought he was a good player, but where he has been played has been wrong. Always looks like he should be a Lampard type player, bursting forward and goal scoring. Not played on the right or deep. But we dont really have that option open to us.

[mastermind84]

Deep lying playmaker would definitely be the wrong position. He simply doesn't have the technical ability or composure on the ball that a Santi or Elneny has to function in the role. I think against weaker team at home he could play the role of CM alongside a passer Santi/Elneny as his work rate can compensate for the defensive muscle we'd lose but really, it needs to be on the right or behind the striker (like he does for Wales).

At any rate, we were already down about twenty or thirty goals last season and additionally with the most likely possibility of yet another window without a striker being bought, we really could do with Ramsey hitting his goal scoring stride and chipping in with 15 goals this season. I mean as majestic as Ozil is, his goal return is frankly not good enough for his position. I really wouldn't mind seeing Ozil/Ramsey alternating depending on the opposition and or the injury situation.

if you play Ramsey as a 3rd CM, he could be devastating.

Shoot, he may even do great next to Xhaka.

Its not a problem of fitting anyone into the team, imo. Ramsey, Ozil, Xhaka, Elneny, Alexis should be the only players we are trying to fit in the midfield and attacking positions. They can all fit. You can plot everyone else after that, but those guys could/should be in our best attacking side.

There seems to be a fair bit of hatred for ramsey on here at times.

its not just on here, the fans have never warmed to Ramsey. Maybe its because so many are invested in Wilshere? Its strange to me.

[Goonermerree]

I think fans get frustrated with Ramsey when he shoots and doesn't get the shot on target, or persists with little flicks which result in giving away possession. I hope he can play with the same effort for us as he did for Wales in the Euros.

[fakeyank]

My gripe against him is that he almost never covers for his fellow midfielders. He goes on his 'hollywood' runs all too often abandoning his team. I'd rather have a player with less talent playing for the team than a moran playing for himself.

[mastermind84]

I think fans get frustrated with Ramsey when he shoots and doesn't get the shot on target, or persists with little flicks which result in giving away possession. I hope he can play with the same effort for us as he did for Wales in the Euros.

He doesnt give the ball away as much as many think.

He also scored a winning goal in a cup final for the club.

My gripe against him is that he almost never covers for his fellow midfielders. He goes on his 'hollywood' runs all too often abandoning his team. I'd rather have a player with less talent playing for the team than a moran playing for himself.

Does this actually happen or do you want to think it happens?


Ramsey has flaws, but he is also a devastating player when used correctly. Our manager has not for a few years.

[fakeyank]

Does this actually happen or do you want to think it happens?


Ramsey has flaws, but he is also a devastating player when used correctly. Our manager has not for a few years.

I actually think he is a great player, so there is no need for me to 'imagine' things. Unfortunately he is too selfish of a player for my liking.

[mastermind84]

I actually think he is a great player, so there is no need for me to 'imagine' things. Unfortunately he is too selfish of a player for my liking.

He isn't selfish.

He often does what the manager asks.

There were a few matches last season where he held to allow Elneny the forward runs.

I don't think anyone on this team is selfish except Alexis.

[Kano]

Swansea's Ayew to West Ham for £20m

[Kano]

And Palace turn down an £18m bid for Bolaise. Wow.

[Marc Overmars]

I don't think Ramsey is selfish as such, I just think his game with us is a little chaotic and doesn't really have a structure. He's a very good player though but his performances haven't been as effective as they perhaps should be. He was stunning in 13/14 and if he can rediscover even a fraction of that form we'll be better for it.