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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    I'm not making sh*t up
    Yes you are:

    doesn't seem too bothered about the fact his team have failed to win
    That's bullshit and you know it. You're just WUMming. You must be, you can't possibly believe that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dein-machine View Post
    Letters, what's happened to GayPete?
    Er. I think he's Sterling Archer now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    For someone who is so desperate to win he certainly isn't doing enough with the resources he has to hand.

    He went into the season pretty much without a senior striker, is this the behaviour of a manager who is desperate to win?

    IMO, I don't think it's a case of whether or not he wants to win, more a case of him wanting to win "his way". It's all very idealistic and self-fulfilling IMO and he places far too much of an emphasis on his own desires ahead of the teams desires.

    Of course this is simply my opinion and based on my observation of his management style.
    Good Post.Surely if he really wanted to win the league so badly he would of strengthened in january especially with the injuries we had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
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    That's bullshit and you know it. You're just WUMming. You must be, you can't possibly believe that.
    Like I said I do, he might want to win but to me it's clear he's not too unhappy not winning or else he would be far more proactive like many other managers and wouldn't go on about top 4 like he does.

    Why else would someone fail to strenghten adequately, stick with the same players and praise 4th so much after 8 years of nothing. It's the lack of real changes that gets me and his excuses, a manager that isn't happy with not winning doesn't make excuses, he does something about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Yes you are:



    That's bullshit and you know it. You're just WUMming. You must be, you can't possibly believe that.
    See Selassie’s post. Almost a decade without winning a trophy and I don’t know how it hasn’t eaten him alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    See Selassie’s post. Almost a decade without winning a trophy and I don’t know how it hasn’t eaten him alive.
    David Dein gave a good interview ahead of Wenger's ill-fated 1000th game. He said they always go out for dinner after home games unless we've lost because then Wenger's no company at all. It clearly bothers him. Whether he's able to do anything about it is a different matter.
    There's clearly been some financial restrictions on him although I also believe some have been self-inflicted too. There seems to have been a longer term plan and you look at his net spend over his whole time with us it's remarkable how he's kept us up there.
    He should, of course, have won some trophies in the last 9 years too and I see the FA Cup this year as his last chance to deliver.

    You can accuse him of many things but not being bothered isn't one of them, there's a physical change in him when things aren't going well, it clearly affects him deeply.

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    Fergie said in his book that Arsene struggled to accept that his sides playing perfect football could lose, and that intensified their feud. Now, that might be Fergie trying to stir the pot but it doesn't contradict other impressions I've got about him, ie. being a "bad" loser, if you want to call it that. You might very well think that he isn't capable of delivering trophies or success because his philosophy is outdated, or his tactics are naive - you might very well think that. But I do not think for a moment that Arsene has become disinterested and complacent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    David Dein gave a good interview ahead of Wenger's ill-fated 1000th game. He said they always go out for dinner after home games unless we've lost because then Wenger's no company at all. It clearly bothers him. Whether he's able to do anything about it is a different matter.
    There's clearly been some financial restrictions on him although I also believe some have been self-inflicted too. There seems to have been a longer term plan and you look at his net spend over his whole time with us it's remarkable how he's kept us up there.
    He should, of course, have won some trophies in the last 9 years too and I see the FA Cup this year as his last chance to deliver. You can accuse him of many things but not being bothered isn't one of them, there's a physical change in him when things aren't going well, it clearly affects him deeply.
    Please stop trying to distort the truth. What is net spend. Wenger has had plenty to spend and no one can believe that a mortgage of 24m per year has resticted us frtom spending when at the same time we have an annual wage bill of over 130m and the manager himself is paid over 7m. The net spend is an irrelevant figure because it is distorted by the massive payouts we have got from selling stars like Le sulk, Overmars, Henry, Fabregas et al. We have plenty of money, CVertainly not as much as the erstwhile top 3 but more than any of the other 16 teams,

    What is the putrpose of a sporting enterprise. Is it not to fulfil its fans expectations or to horde money like some character from the Merchant of Venice. We are sitting on 120m, more than any other sporting franchise in the world perhaps, Instead of maximising our potential on the pitch we shore up money while pretending to be broke. Wenger doesnt spend because it strokes his ego more to be known as the economic miracle worker than the all conquering manager. He knows he cant win the big titles so he has created one for himself. The big players he sold...All the ones who left aftert 2005 abandoned him because his method was never going to win them titles....They all say it even Flamini, who came back after success at Milan.

    So he is upset when he loses..Throws a water bottle about!....So do something about it. Gird yourself with the best tools you can find to win and let others worry about the bank balance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Globalgunner View Post
    Please stop trying to distort the truth. What is net spend. Wenger has had plenty to spend and no one can believe that a mortgage of 24m per year has resticted us frtom spending when at the same time we have an annual wage bill of over 130m and the manager himself is paid over 7m. The net spend is an irrelevant figure because it is distorted by the massive payouts we have got from selling stars like Le sulk, Overmars, Henry, Fabregas et al. We have plenty of money, CVertainly not as much as the erstwhile top 3 but more than any of the other 16 teams,

    What is the putrpose of a sporting enterprise. Is it not to fulfil its fans expectations or to horde money like some character from the Merchant of Venice. We are sitting on 120m, more than any other sporting franchise in the world perhaps, Instead of maximising our potential on the pitch we shore up money while pretending to be broke. Wenger doesnt spend because it strokes his ego more to be known as the economic miracle worker than the all conquering manager. He knows he cant win the big titles so he has created one for himself. The big players he sold...All the ones who left aftert 2005 abandoned him because his method was never going to win them titles....They all say it even Flamini, who came back after success at Milan.

    So he is upset when he loses..Throws a water bottle about!....So do something about it. Gird yourself with the best tools you can find to win and let others worry about the bank balance.
    - this 100%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    David Dein gave a good interview ahead of Wenger's ill-fated 1000th game. He said they always go out for dinner after home games unless we've lost because then Wenger's no company at all. It clearly bothers him. Whether he's able to do anything about it is a different matter.
    There's clearly been some financial restrictions on him although I also believe some have been self-inflicted too. There seems to have been a longer term plan and you look at his net spend over his whole time with us it's remarkable how he's kept us up there.
    He should, of course, have won some trophies in the last 9 years too and I see the FA Cup this year as his last chance to deliver.

    You can accuse him of many things but not being bothered isn't one of them, there's a physical change in him when things aren't going well, it clearly affects him deeply.
    That’s in relation to losing a game. That’s not the same as looking back on the season and being deeply disappointed with our position. How many times has he defended our CL qualification record? You do it yourself and constantly remind everyone we’ve had financial restrictions because of the stadium. Even though it’s true, when he paints us as being handicapped and the underdog, it sort of justifies the team’s performance. It’s similar to what Jose and Roger’s were doing when playing down their title hopes.

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