Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

[Goonermerree]

You mean get Flamini back? Play him at CB?

Please don't even whisper that in case a certain fellow hears you.

Any player who comes on a free will be right up Wenger's street. It will take away the heart break he feels when he spends his money, I mean the club's money. (Even Wenger wouldn't get away with bringing Flamini back!)

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

In transfer market terms, Arsenal are the scum of the earth, trying to force clubs to sell cheaply because they need the money, trying to activate apparent release clause with extra £1 bids, it's easy to see why clubs turn round and get offended and tell us where to go.

The morally superior club morally inferior in every way ironically.

Really?.....do you really take a moral objection to us doing that. I personally don't care if we prey on other clubs for their players if that club can't sustain itself financially that's the way of the world. My objection is shrugging their shoulders and walking away when that tactic doesn't bear fruit.
Even if a club's new owner is a asset stripping venture captalist, i'm quite happy for us to take advantage of that and get decent players for a bargain....after all why not.

If when that option is not available, we sit on money we can afford to spend....that's the problem

[Goonermerree]

Lol, we're being linked with everyone this morning.

[Özim]

Really?.....do you really take a moral objection to us doing that. I personally don't care if we prey on other clubs for their players if that club can't sustain itself financially that's the way of the world. My objection is shrugging their shoulders and walking away when that tactic doesn't bear fruit.
Even if a club's new owner is a asset stripping venture captalist, i'm quite happy for us to take advantage of that and get decent players for a bargain....after all why not.

If when that option is not available, we sit on money we can afford to spend....that's the problem

Yes I do to some extent when we always refuse to pay the market rate and prey like vultures on clubs with no money and pay them under market value for their players, those clubs need the money to stay afloat as well and clubs going bust isn't good for football.

It's morally wrong IMO to behave that way, we're loaded and don't need to behave that way, no other club does, scummy behaviour IMO.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Ridiculous argument, that's a bit like saying to someone because they have a fair amount of money they shouldn't go to a clearance sale at a shop which is closing and pick up bargains.....utter nonsense.

If we can get a bargain and get a great player from it, there is absolutely no reason to object to it. Why pay 50million for a player, if you can get a player of exactly the same standard for half the price....how much money you have is irrelevant

That we decide to do nothing if we can't get a bargain is the objectionable point.

[Power n Glory]

Yes I do to some extent when we always refuse to pay the market rate and prey like vultures on clubs with no money and pay them under market value for their players, those clubs need the money to stay afloat as well and clubs going bust isn't good for football.

It's morally wrong IMO to behave that way, we're loaded and don't need to behave that way, no other club does, scummy behaviour IMO.

That's not so much of a big deal. The real dodgy behavior was snapping up kids from other academies and getting them to sign professional contracts with us before they sign for the clubs that developed them. I can see why UEFA put a stop to. UEFA!!!

[Özim]

Ridiculous argument, that's a bit like saying to someone because they have a fair amount of money they shouldn't go to a clearance sale at a shop which is closing and pick up bargains.....utter nonsense.

If we can get a bargain and get a great player from it, there is absolutely no reason to object to it. Why pay 50million for a player, if you can get a player of exactly the same standard for half the price....how much money you have is irrelevant

That we decide to do nothing if we can't get a bargain is the objectionable point.

Not the same at all, a clearance sale isn't a hard up club. Luckily for football most of these clubs tell us where to go, bad for us fans of course but what can you do.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

That's not so much of a big deal. The real dodgy behavior was snapping up kids from other academies and getting them to sign professional contracts with us before they sign for the clubs that developed them. I can see why UEFA put a stop to. UEFA!!!

Meh exploiting a loophole

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Not the same at all, a clearance sale isn't a hard up club. Luckily for football most of these clubs tell us where to go, bad for us fans of course but what can you do.

It's exactly the same, a lot of clubs engage to an extent in clearance sales to free up cash that they need because they haven't run their club particularly well.

If the clubs tell us where to go, that's entirely up to them. But if they are prepared to sell because they need to (i.e Cazorla with Malaga) are we meant to look elsewhere and potentially pay 20million more because of some bizarre notion of morality?

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Let's be clear on this, we only actually care that the club is tight because it's having a detrimental effect on our squad building and it's costing us the ability to compete for the top prizes....and that's the only reason why we should care.

The parsimonious approach is not working for us, it's as simple as that.