Fabregas goes to Barca for £35million

[Power n Glory]

Our collapse lasted far more than 4 games, wasn't Cesc playing for part of that collapse?
He's a great player but he's had extended injuries in previous seasons and we've not fallen apart.
I don't think we should go out of our way to get rid of our best players but if they want to go then IMO we might as well.
Also, if Cesc goes then we might just get a proper captain. He's a great player but not a great captain.

Of course it lasted longer than 4 games but I shouldn’t have to point out the obvious. It’s a crazy notion to think we’ll some how get better by selling our best players and replacing them with the flops that are already in the team. It’s the blueprint we have followed for the last six years and it’s got us nowhere. If people want radical change, then our first step is to keep our star players and build on that. In plenty of games where we’ve been without Cesc and been unable to unlock teams, I’ve heard people say we miss Cesc.

If we’re going to lose Cesc at least bring in a serious quality player that can take the responsibility on his shoulder to either create goals or score. Both would be an absolute bonus. Right now, we don’t have that in our team and if we did they would have done it during the Carling Cup final or when we needed the wins to bring home the title.

It just baffles me how every year people trip on this same stumbling block. We’ve followed the same pattern for the last six years and I would have thought people would have learned by now. If we sell, at least make sure it’s worth our while and buy a ready made class player to help the squad.

[IBK]

I can't understand why people cannot see that Fabregas's:

1. Increasingly injury prone nature
2. Self-evident disillusionment with playing for us, and
3. Pining for Barca, and (most likely) agreement to give us only one more year, last Summer
4. Lack of interest in playing for anyone else

Are not factors that will seriously address his transfer value. Last Summer, I said that Fabreags would still play 100% for us is he stayed. I was wrong, and I think that if he stays, these lacklustre performances will be even more apparent.

Wenger can only extracate himself from this as well as he can in the circumstances. I think his track record of selling players is pretty good, on the whole.

[LDG]

Of course it lasted longer than 4 games but I shouldn’t have to point out the obvious. It’s a crazy notion to think we’ll some how get better by selling our best players and replacing them with the flops that are already in the team. It’s the blueprint we have followed for the last six years and it’s got us nowhere. If people want radical change, then our first step is to keep our star players and build on that. In plenty of games where we’ve been without Cesc and been unable to unlock teams, I’ve heard people say we miss Cesc.

If we’re going to lose Cesc at least bring in a serious quality player that can take the responsibility on his shoulder to either create goals or score. Both would be an absolute bonus. Right now, we don’t have that in our team and if we did they would have done it during the Carling Cup final or when we needed the wins to bring home the title.

It just baffles me how every year people trip on this same stumbling block. We’ve followed the same pattern for the last six years and I would have thought people would have learned by now. If we sell, at least make sure it’s worth our while and buy a ready made class player to help the squad.

We lost Vieira don't forget. And who had heard of Francesc Fabregas before he started playing in the side. And effectively replaced Vieira.

[Ollie the Optimist]

I can't understand why people cannot see that Fabregas's:

1. Increasingly injury prone nature
2. Self-evident disillusionment with playing for us, and
3. Pining for Barca, and (most likely) agreement to give us only one more year, last Summer
4. Lack of interest in playing for anyone else

Are not factors that will seriously address his transfer value. Last Summer, I said that Fabreags would still play 100% for us is he stayed. I was wrong, and I think that if he stays, these lacklustre performances will be even more apparent.

Wenger can only extracate himself from this as well as he can in the circumstances. I think his track record of selling players is pretty good, on the whole.

hmm i think the lacklustre performances wont happen purely beacause the fans wont have it. there was more anger at the players this season then ever before. given the whole saga with him and nasri, they gonna have to win the fans back. both will have seen what happened to ade so know what to expect

[IBK]

hmm i think the lacklustre performances wont happen purely beacause the fans wont have it. there was more anger at the players this season then ever before. given the whole saga with him and nasri, they gonna have to win the fans back. both will have seen what happened to ade so know what to expect

I don't think that most of them give a monkeys how the fans feel.

[Boss]

We lost Vieira don't forget. And who had heard of Francesc Fabregas before he started playing in the side. And effectively replaced Vieira.

We suffered on the pitch while Fabregas learned, and will suffer while Ramsey/Wilshere learn if he is not replaced.

[Niall_Quinn]

We lost Vieira don't forget. And who had heard of Francesc Fabregas before he started playing in the side. And effectively replaced Vieira.

And now we lose Fabregas, which is fine because who had heard of Jack Wilshere before he started playing in the side...? And you know the rest, long before it actually happens. We're a tier 2 selling club when the whole point of the damn move was to secure a place in the top flight.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

the point was that £38mil for Sanchez, £40mil for Neymar, fuck if they are going to spend another £45mil on aplayer they clearly arent that arse about

Fair point. well its cesc who suffers if they buy Neymar.

[LDG]

We suffered on the pitch while Fabregas learned, and will suffer while Ramsey/Wilshere learn if he is not replaced.

I fully expect Nasri to fill that role if cesc goes.

If Fabregas goes, it frees up the wage hike for Nasri, which is all he wants.

If they both go, and they are not replaced, then Wengers head is on the block, no doubt about it. Already is tbh.

[Niall_Quinn]

I can't understand why people cannot see that Fabregas's:

1. Increasingly injury prone nature
2. Self-evident disillusionment with playing for us, and
3. Pining for Barca, and (most likely) agreement to give us only one more year, last Summer
4. Lack of interest in playing for anyone else

Are not factors that will seriously address his transfer value. Last Summer, I said that Fabreags would still play 100% for us is he stayed. I was wrong, and I think that if he stays, these lacklustre performances will be even more apparent.

Wenger can only extracate himself from this as well as he can in the circumstances. I think his track record of selling players is pretty good, on the whole.

If Wenger had done his job and built a winning team then the players would be less likely to want out. The whole club reeks of failure, little wonder the players are checking their options. I don't condone that but that's how it is in the modern game, the players are scumbags. If you want to hold on to them you have to give the greedy bastards even more than the wheelbarrows of cash, they want medals too. Effectively we've wasted Fabregas, just like we've wasted Theo and we'll waste Wilshere too. That's because it's Wenger that keeps us "2%" from success with his stubborn and counter-productive penny pinching, his refusal to accept when he's demonstrably wrong and his pathological disdain for the English game. Sheer arrogance and nothing to justify it.