Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

[Power n Glory]

I don't care why he is doing this any longer. For whatever reason he is doing it, he is either complicit, incompetent or both.

Sadly he has no pride, not even in whatever legacy he has remaining, otherwise he'd be gone.

Long gone.

Sums it up.

[Özim]

He is meeting his bosses expectations.

It's not all about that, there's such a thing as pride in your work, he can't possibly be proud of what he's delivering, which leads me to think he doesn't give a toss, all he cares about is his buddies at the top and his players, oh and of course what he's getting, everything else is but a distraction, it's clear to me he doesn't give a damn about the fans, his patronising words and the way he's quick to point the finger are testament to that.

[Niall_Quinn]

Do you think Pep, Klopp or Jose would struggle with the set up we have here? I actually think Jose is envious of what we have here. It's why he's gone to Utd as well. I think if we bring in a someone with a vision, they'd have the freedom to work how they want. Or at least I hope. That's the sort of conditions Wenger walked into when he arrived and here are. The clubs molded in his image. If he didn't wanted to unburden himself and focus purely on what's going on on the pitch, I don't think he'd be denied that.

I think Wenger's replacement will walk into a healthy set up so long as they are hungry for success. I'm more so worried about who we appoint and the process. It's a problem if Wenger appoints his successor but can we trust the Board full of non football men to identify the right man? It's a tricky one.

I said job description, not liberty. I doubt any manager would entertain the idea of hiring a bunch of yes-men and then performing every role themselves. I doubt most managers could give a shit about the cost of a player provided they get the player. Things would have to change dramatically under a new manager and that useless bunch of fucks who are raking up all the cash might actually have to start earning some of it. Can you really be focused on winning if you are a jack of just about every fucking trade in the club? I'm just surprised Wenger doesn't pick himself to play on match days.

[Letters]

So that goes back to the question, why does Wenger accept such low standards? As somebody else has already asked, where is his ambition, his pride? And if he has no ambition and no pride then can he really be doing the best he's capable of?

I don't know what you mean by 'accept' low standards? Who wants their bosses to be more demanding?
I think he is more demanding of himself though and I think his perennial failure hurts him but I don't think he's capable of doing more.
It's obvious why he hasn't been sacked, a better question is why hasn't he resigned. I think that's because he thinks he can still do a good job.
Every season now is becoming like a double or quits with the fans.

[Globalgunner]

The difference between us and almost every other club is that the owners of other clubs really want to win things, even modest clubs like Everton and Spuds, they keep fine tuning their organisation in pursuit of this. Our club is just another francjhise in the portfolio of an American who simply wants to make money. In the US ironically they run their sports on a socialist principle... Everybody makes money, even if you come bottom of the league. When you come last next season you are given first pick of the best new players.

Kroenke doesnt care at all. Arsenal are the only club he has that has won anything in 10 years 2 FA cups

[Goonermerree]

Have we bought anybody decent yet?

[Power n Glory]

I said job description, not liberty. I doubt any manager would entertain the idea of hiring a bunch of yes-men and then performing every role themselves. I doubt most managers could give a shit about the cost of a player provided they get the player. Things would have to change dramatically under a new manager and that useless bunch of fucks who are raking up all the cash might actually have to start earning some of it. Can you really be focused on winning if you are a jack of just about every fucking trade in the club? I'm just surprised Wenger doesn't pick himself to play on match days.

But what's the job description? Do you think this has been imposed on Wenger or is it self imposed? Wouldn't a top manager walk in and be able to impose his ideas of what makes a top club just as Wenger did when appointed? If we were appoint Pep or Ancelotti, two coaches that have worked at the biggest clubs and that's our aim as a club is to get to that sort of level, wouldn't we be willing to listen to new ideas?

Looking at the small changes made around the club with the introduction of new tech like those red zone vest things, the new stat machine that collects data, going beyond tech and touring America and Asia during preseason, appointing new youth development coaches...aren't those signs of a club looking to evolve? I think it's personnel problem more than a structural problem. I don't think there are enough people around the club that really know football and the one guy that does is totally out of touch and outdated. He's a dinosaur. Appointing former players as coaches seems like an attempt to try and change the culture and bring in fresh blood but we really need Wenger to really freshen up.

[Marc Overmars]

Every season now is becoming like a double or quits with the fans.

That's why the fanbase is so divided. Quits was called a long time ago but fans like you keep doubling in hope. No offence.

[Letters]

That's why the fanbase is so divided. Quits was called a long time ago but fans like you keep doubling in hope. No offence.

Keep? I've made my position on Wenger very clear.

[Kano]

I agree with your point as regards the highlighted text - and the failings in Wenger's methods can't fairly be attributed to him lacking a will to win. But I don't think his obvious reluctance to pay what has become the going rate for additions to his team that he clearly sees the need for is a subjective qualification to this. It is an objective failing. You might say generally that whether or not reinforcements are needed is a subjective decision for the manager that is difficult to fit into the 'doing the best he can' judgment call, but we are looking at a trend here with Arsenal that has undoubtedly denied us chances of league success. For this reason I don't see why his failings and obstinacy in the transfer market should be regarded as anything other than a failure to do the best possible job of making us competitive. The evidence is that he chooses not to spend what is necessary; and therefore deliberately takes risks with his squad, not that he has been forced to do so and is doing his best in straightened circumstances.

I think it still remains subjective because of how you measure success. Most of us fans refer to winning trophies as the only true sign of success at a club like Arsenal, whereas it seems to be that Wenger doesn't see that as the entire, 100% end game of what he is trying to achieve season-on-season. If he refuses to pay market rates to buy players, from his point of view, he would say he is working in the best interests of the club and doing the best job financially. Whether we believe he should or shouldn't be isn't the point. But what he views as best set of methods to reach a successful level. You would assume given we are going round in circles that he is happy with his approach and sees no reason to change them. It's all subjective thinking ultimately, which is why you have fans still arguing for and against him staying at the club. Whether we agree with that or not is down to us. I agree about the transfer failings, squad management etc but clearly he believes fully in his approach and what some of us may call a mistake, he'll disagree entirely.