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I did like Wengers comment the other day about top 4, in the past he's said he's qualified for the CL for x amount of years running, now that we're struggling he turns it around and say it shows how hard it is.
We've been terrible this season and have lost quite a few games and we're not that far behind, so at the moment it doesn't seem that hard tbh.
How is that turning it around? Isn't he making the same point?
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It is hard to finish top 4 as consistently as he has, he is a little too proud of doing so but at the same time some clubs have spent a LOT of money trying to achieve it and not all have succeeded.
The issue right now is the players just aren't playing for him or each other. It's a toxic situation and won't get any better while he stays manager.
The way I see it, he's using it as a defence of the distaster that's taken place this season as in "look how hard it is to get top 4, it's not so bad if we don't make it after all".
We've been absolutely awful this season, losing left right and centre and in reality we aren't that far behind 4th place which just shows it's not that hard to get top 4, if it was we'd be miles behind based on our performance this season.
If it's not that hard then how come so many sides have spent so much and failed to achieve it consistently?
It doesn't leave that much margin for error.
Money isn't always the answer, it takes more than that, if you're a good side top 4 is not a big problem unless you have problems in the dressing room or the mentality isn't right.
Spurs after years of struggling are now easily in the top 4 as they have the right manager, Chelsea when on song always make it, the sides outside the top 4 aren't really all that IMO.
Yes we've done well getting there every season, so credit where credits due, but it's not as hard as he claims IMO.
English football isn't great at the moment, we can see that from results in Europe.
What I was picking up on is how he has come out and said look how hard it is as if it excuses how poor a season we've had, it doesn't, we're not in the top 4 because we've been terrible this year, no other reason.
Last edited by Özim; 12-04-2017 at 12:22 PM.
It has been EASY for the top clubs to finish top 4 over the last few years - which is the only reason Wenger has managed it. We've had the chavs, Utd, the gypos all in various states of rebuilding. Liverpool are predictably inconsistent. The spuds have had massive player clear outs and wasted tons on dodgy players up until very recently where their squad has settled down. We have enjoyed several seasons where UTD are not challenging at the top. So the challenge has been MUCH EASIER.
Leicester City took advantage of this - didn't they? And won a bloody title.
Wenger couldn't do it though. Not with a club as powerful as Arsenal and a stable and settled environment. He doesn't have a leg to stand on. His excuses and alleged reasons are bullshit. The challenge got easier and he got worse.
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If you throw enough money at a problem, eventually you will get it right. We are in the top 4 league of spenders and have been top 4. City have been in it since spending money so have Chelsea, United have consistently been top of the spending charts. Wenger has done well but not overachieved by any exceeding margin. Spuds spend 50& less than us every year and have harried Wenger for the last 10 years.
Either way, he has been found out this season, it is irredeemable for him. He may spend money but it will be a waste, always going for the left field option hoping he can come out of it with a wink and smirk saying, I told you so, Sanogo is just as good as the 50m options.
The good news is AST confirming that there is no 2 year extension option on offer as at today. Get rid for the love of God,
Last edited by Globalgunner; 12-04-2017 at 12:57 PM.
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