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Thread: Transfer News, Rumours and Bollocks Thread

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    Don't know if it's been said, but Sol Campbell is training with us.

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    That's our CB issue resolved then. His presence will be like a new signing.

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    Jagielka, Cesc & Offloading the Junk

    Arsene must be quite serious about Jagielka....this is being reported in quite a few places....I think this one could be done by mid next week if there is any truth in it. Everton are broke and they won't get a better offer for him than this.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...-defender.html

    Arsenal closing in on Phil Jagielka after submitting new bid for Everton defender.

    Arsenal are attempting to clinch a deal for Everton centre-back Phil Jagielka after submitting a new bid of around £15 million. Emirates bound: Phil Jagielka could be heading for Arsenal forllowing a second, improved bid.

    Arsène Wenger, the Arsenal manager, has also made it known to Barcelona president Sandro Rosell that he wants the uncertainty that has engulfed his captain, Cesc Fabregas, to be resolved by Sunday evening. Barcelona are well aware of Arsenal’s £40 million valuation and Wenger has made it clear that he will not allow the Fabregas situation to continue to overshadow his own pre-season preparations.

    If Barcelona do not come up with an acceptable bid, he will expect Fabregas to commit himself to Arsenal for another season.

    Arsenal hope to draw a definitive line under the saga as early as Monday and certainly before their members’ day for fans at the Emirates Stadium next Thursday.

    Wenger, having launched a renewed attempt to sign Jagielka, remains hopeful that a deal can be completed within 48 hours. Arsenal had a £10 million offer for Jagielka rejected last week and it is understood that the new offer is worth some £5 million more than that.

    Everton, though, are believed to value Jagielka at more like £18 million and the two clubs were still in negotiations yesterday.
    Jagielka signed a four-year contract in March and is regarded by David Moyes, the Everton manager, as one of the club’s most important players.
    Arsenal also failed with a £12 million bid for Jagielka last summer and, at Everton, there is a sense that the 28 year-old’s value should have risen following a season in which he has become established in the England squad.

    Moyes has previously shown that he will not allow his best players to leave without a considerable fight. Manchester City eventually had to pay £22 million to sign Joleon Lescott from Everton in 2009.

    However, Everton have their own financial pressures and it is thought that Moyes would largely need to fund new arrivals this summer with player sales.
    Wenger’s interest in Jagielka underlines his desire to recruit a defender who is both experienced and established in the Premier League.
    Other slightly younger options include Bolton’s Gary Cahill and Blackburn’s Chris Samba, but Jagielka has emerged as Wenger’s clear preference.
    Cahill is understood to have a release clause of £17 million but, given that he has only year left on his contract, Arsenal would be reluctant to match that fee.

    Samba said on Wednesday that he had ambitions to play in the Champions League but would not speak specifically about Arsenal.
    Wenger is also keen to push through a deal for Spain winger Juan Mata, although the indications from Valencia are that they would expect Arsenal to pay an up-front fee of around £17.5 million rather than accept a lower initial price.

    Arsenal also have an interest in Joel Campbell, 19, a striker who plays in Costa Rica with Saprissa, although he may be loaned back out and would very much be a signing for the longer term.

    While the recruitment of a new centre-back is a priority regardless of who leaves, Wenger’s decisions over new midfielders or strikers will largely be shaped by whether Fabregas is sold to Barcelona.

    For that reason, the Mata deal has emerged as less of an immediate priority than a new centre-back. Nicklas Bendtner and Emmanuel Eboué are also both likely to leave this summer. Bendtner has held talks with a number of clubs but is now close to joining Sporting Lisbon for a deal worth around £9 million while Eboué is expected to be sold to Galatasaray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ach View Post
    He'd still probably say that now but if we make Valencia an offer they can't refuse (sorry watching the Godfather whilst typing this) then he doesn't have a choice. Valencia need the money
    that's also true. i've thought that we'd get another cb at least, so if mata came too that would surely get a lot of people excited. an additional striker of good quality would be the icing on the cake.

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    that Wenger is pushing for Jagielka..made a 15m bid according the the telegraph, and we've bid for Mata...around 17 mill which will be accepted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    I've got a bit of problem with that recollection. The aim has always been to win things. After winning the FA Cup we didn't all of sudden turn into a 4th spot battling team. Wenger couldn't deal with Mourinho and it's part of the reason why we couldn't win the league. This idea of us 'holding back' is a little warped. We couldn't win the league but we were still going for trophies. Wenger wants the Champions League title badly and a top four finish is probably his own set standard because he wants that trophy. On the barren league years, we were going for that one and we still are. The fact that we're looking stronger in the league now probably has a lot to do with Mourinho's exit and Chelsea's decline in dominance.

    Also, in those first four seasons, we probably spent around the same sort of money we spend now. Maybe more. We bought Hleb, Gallas, Diaby, Adebayor, Walcott, Denilson, Rosicky, Eduardo and a load of kids that have come and gone. What we we're seeing now in transfers is no different to what we were doing then. One or two quality players mixed with young players. In fact, over the past couple seasons, Wenger has become less active in the transfer window.

    But back to the point. It's not okay to tell a fan to shut up and simply back greedy bastards. They've been able to get away with for so long because the fans have always thought we're a season away from silverware and we were given that impression. No memo was sent out stating we'll be battling for 4th spot from now on. We were FA Cup winners and probably 2nd/3rd best team in the country. Expectations didn't just drop like that. It's been a slow decline.
    Yah, we spent 8m on Theo, 2m on Denilson, 5m on Diaby, 6m on Adebayor, 10m apiece on Rosicky and Eduardo whilst seeing Vieira and Henry go out for more money, I don't think that's indicative of building to win trophies the same season as the purchase but to develop for a few years along the line. I'm sure Wenger was trying to build the best team for the time with what funds he had but also balancing it with building a better team for the future, we wouldn't have handed back a trophy if we'd won one and similarly I'm also sure fans expectations weren't instantly dimmed but after a few hits and once you actually took a look at the stupid money being thrown around and the restrictiveness of the stadium debt you soon saw that we'd be either challenging in a few years or not at all (still debatable which way it's going to go now, and lord is it debated ).

    I think our transfer policy hasn't seen a major overhaul, I agree there but we're definitely spending more on wages and with much of that initial squad now either developed or gone we have, hopefully, a better mix of experience to youth than we did have and so can spend it in different areas and afford to keep top players on top wages (for us, anyway).

    Course it's not okay to tell a fan to shut up and back greedy bastards, pointing out that those bastards might not be greedy and proposing alternative reasoning, however, is.

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    Arsenal are preparing a bid for both Lille playmaker Eden Hazard and his younger brother Thorgan, who plays for the French side's rivals Lens.Full story: CaughtOffside.com
    Wouldn't be surprised if the younger unknown brother was our main target and we're only getting Eden Hazard to convince him to come

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    are we going to sell Arshavin if we get Mata? If so, I'd be celebrating...adding to that also the offloading of Bendy and Eboue...

    That said we still have to sign another LB as we can't cope with Gibbs and Traoré, another CF as Chamakh can't deputise even my granda, let alone RVP and maybe another CM as I predict Diaby will be out for most of the season and Song will be breathless after 2 months...
    Last edited by Daniele; 29-07-2011 at 07:36 AM.

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    i dont think wenger would want to sell a player that gave us 16 assists last season

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    Arshavin stays. . .gets another season to prove that tubsters can play the beautiful game. . . .the only ones to leave are the ones that have already been mentioned. . .that means Diaby stays! hes such a waste, he can truly awesome in the middle when hes in the mood but it just dont happen enough which I suppose is the cancer of the current squad because they all suffer from the same sickness, not being in the mood.. . .that is what Wenger needs to soet out quick time!
    Jags and maybe one more CB in will see Verms shift over because the names mentioned are all starters but I wont be surprised if its only Jags then Kos gets the nod. . .Squeezy can gtfo to domeone like Watford
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