Good one.
Good one.
Plenty of Wenger backers use the 'If the neighbor dont have it and we dont have it, then we are good' excuses. We pay the highest ticket prices in Britain and we still have to pray that some other team fucks up. This season it is Chelsea and City, last season it was just City, the season before it was Utd and City, the season before it was someone else... never us! Our club is a sham right now.. right from the manager to his buddies in the boardroom.. they are fleecing the fans, and most of them are happily getting fleeced!! The more I think about it, the problem is not the board or the manager, it is the fans! Most of them can be fed anything and they will just happily 'take it'- typical middle class mentality.Originally Posted by selassie
Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..
Me neither.
Oh I totally agree regarding Monreal, I actually thought Wenger was joking in pre-season when he stated Monreal could play there, I thought he was just saying it to deflect the attention away from him not buying a CB.
I am guessing we have no prospects coming through at CB otherwise they should have seen some kind of action or at least been on the bench.
Totally agree.
Who are the Wenger backers? We are pretty much all on the same page right now in that we need to move on from Wenger.
But it is possible to have that view and also think he's not the biggest c*** on Earth, not a bumbling idiot ™, not the most incompetent manager in football history and that not everything he does is ridiculous and incompetent.
There is NEVER a middle ground on here. I will defend him against some of the more extreme slating posted on here as I think it's way over the top.
That doesn't mean I think he's the best manager in world history (I do think he's the best manager in Arsenal history though) and should definitely stay at Arsenal forever and that when he dies I think he should be stuffed and remain manager (add your own joke about how we'd do better then)
It's also possible to think that Wenger should move on but that we shouldn't panic, sack him immediately and get any idiot in as pretty much anyone would do better.
That clearly isn't true. 6 months ago we won the cup and finished with our most points since 2008. Then we seemed to be buying well in the summer.
And yet it's all falling apart this year, we're all over the shop.
That said, for all our wobbling we're hardly in a crisis. We're still in the top 4. God alone knows how, everyone bar Chelsea seem to be awful this year.
We're only 3 points off City who have far more resources than us and despite Tuesday's embarrassment we'll almost certainly progress from our group, City still may but they're bottom of their group right now and haven't won a single CL game.
I think we'll finish top 4 this year and with the new financial deals in place we're in great shape for any other manager to take over. I think all the 'Wenger backers' are saying is that transition to a new manager needs to be managed carefully, especially having had a manager for so long - ManYoo are in a mess and their desperate attempts to buy their way out of trouble hasn't yielded results yet, although it may. We're not about to be relegated, we're still in the CL and will probably qualify again next year, we'll be able to pay a new manager very well. We're a very high profile side and will be an attractive proposition for most managers. We can afford to take our time and get it right.
You've moved on to a page most of us were on years ago. The trouble is your page is now one where Wenger should stay coz he's not that bad & we don't know who can replace him. My page is that he should never have been offered a new contract & he should have been replaced asap. He is NOT the biggest C*** on earth but he is becoming one, he was never a bumbling idiot but he is becoming one & he was never the most incompetent manager in history but he's trying bloody hard to get there.
There are simply no positives to him anymore, there is not a job in the world that you do better at 65 than you did at 55 - the arrogant trait that served him so well in the early years is now his biggest problem, won't buy quality to replace the obvious dross, still thinks you can challenge by bargain buying, doesn't have a plan B & is tactically a million miles away from what we need. He's comments mean nothing to me anymore because he doesn't talk sense, he talks in a guarded, paranoid manner which suggest a man who now knows he's fucked up for years & he is unable to do anything about it.
No, it isn't.
Ok - We get the chance to take Paul Clements from Madrid next month & Wenger has agreed to a move upstairs to oversee other issues for a couple of years to see out his contract. Do we do it or not?
Paul Clement would be quite an interesting move, very left field. Not sure I'd like someone cutting their teeth with us though.
I do wonder if the fact he's English and working abroad is the only reason why he's been spoken about in high regard.
I have literally no idea who that is. Sorry, I really don't follow football that closely.
As a general principle though I'd be wary of changing managers mid-season.
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