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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Have done a lot of methodical research into the whole thing and it turns out....it's your fault.
    That doesn't surprise me at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    That doesn't surprise me at all.
    I knew deep down in my heart of hearts that it was the case but i felt better to do the paperwork and draw the same conclusion rather than go on gut instinct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    The question is who is to blame? Reasonable observers conclude the entire company management should take a share of the recriminations. This is just common sense devoid of the simple thinking that imagines all we have to do is change the manager and all will be well. Your thinking is flawed. Just because the board has changed doesn't mean the intent of either board differs. To be brutal about it, very different characters can participate in a gang rape but they all have the same intention as they wait to abuse their victim. The change in board coupled with the disrepair of the squad being pushed beyond the pale does signify one thing though, evidently Wenger goes along with this. No manager could ever approach the season so badly prepared unless it was either by design or sheer incompetence. If the latter then the board is 100% to blame. If the former, shame on Wenger and he can stop telling us how much he loves the club.
    If the Board can't see by now that he's incompetent then they deserve all the flak because they've handed him the money and he still makes excuses about other billionaire clubs. I've explained this before but I can understand why the Board have been cautious. For starters, the manager has been able to mask his failings by hiding behind the 'financial doping argument'. I'm sure when our commercial deals / revenue is discussed around board meetings, some folks around that table must sit with their head low and totally embarrassed by some the deals made. They haven't been doing a good job of supporting the manager financially in that respect. How can that level of incompetence point the finger at the manager for not delivering silverware? In that respect, the Board should be chastised for poor financial management, slow to innovate or react to the modern game. That's a fair argument and criticism to be leveled at them. But we're moving past that stage because we have money in the bank and even with the little Wenger has been given, he's been very careless.

    But back to the Board. None of them are football men and don't know a damn thing about the game, so when Wenger comes with his 'project youth' blueprint and tells them Bendy is worth £52k a week and Denilson is the next big thing out of Brazil, whose going to question a man like Wenger with his record? It's a sound strategy if the man can deliver it, plus we've got to pay down the Emirates debt so why not? At Board level, investment level, you have to think long term, 5 years, 10 years, 15 years.....the trophy drought is not on their mind and they're probably right to have that mentality because we need to make sure we keep a roof over our heads. This is short term pain for them and we've only just started to see the end of the tunnel from the transition period. Wenger didn't guide them wrong when suggesting we improve facilities, buy the training ground and get a bigger stadium. He's managed to keep us in the Champions League throughout this period so it would be crazy to for them to sack him. Why get rid of him for a check book manager who needs oil money backing to win? I really can't fault them for that either. It's way too risky at a time when we can't afford to take such risks. Now that we look more secure and to actually boost revenue, we need silverware and better players, they should be putting pressure on the manager and that moment may have just come. Gazidis has thrown the spotlight on Wenger this season. Maybe they now know they don't need him as much. I hope so anyway.

    I expect the Board to be cautious and think more long term but I don't expect that from the manager. I don't know how he is able to keep his pride and dignity in check with that horrendous record unless he's delusional. I think he is. All that 'not getting enough credit' talk and 4th place trophy talk is how he makes it through this period. He's on another planet. If the years of defeat had hurt him as much as hurt the fans and some of our players, he'd have been banging on doors years ago demanding key signings like players have done to him. No way would have benched Theo and then talk about Gnarby as the next wonderkid because Dick Law had fucked up contract talks. He should have been demanding answers on why they haven't secured his services, why have they let player A,B,C's contract run down. I place a huge portion of the blame on Wenger because he's not acting his role. I don't get his intentions or what motivates him. Where is his pride and self interest? He's either corrupt or an imbecile. He's a football manager and his pride should come from winning and building great championship winning teams. This is like watching a striker that doesn't want to score goals or hasn't got the balls to take a penalty. It goes against the nature of the beast.

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    I am very torn in all seriousness.....i do very much believe that Wenger equates spending to cheating and he'd have spent even less in the last eight years if the board and the top players he sold hadn't pressured him into selling them.
    But the board i think have been inert they aren't interested in the day to day running of the club, they leave the commercial side to gazidis and leave the footballing side to wenger without any oversight and because he has been able to get the champions league revenue they don't have to wake up and realise that the only profit they are making is player sales. So in that sense Wenger has been the perfect manager because by taking on unprecedented responsibility because they don't actually have to do anything themselves and can spend board meetings smoking conchas and drinking remy martin and talking about the different exotic women they've fucked.
    Typical short-termist approach because when there is no-one left to sell, they will wonder why they aren't posting record pre-tax profits anymore.....and might be forced to ask Gazidis why they are paying him for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Wenger 70%
    The Board 30%.
    Sounds about right to me.

    If we sack Wenger we'll be 70% better off that means....hang on let me work this out

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    Potato/10.

    No sorry let me try again..............
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    we'd have won the treble last season if he had been sacked last summer, well would you believe it

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    Well surely wenger tells them who he doesn't want in the squad anymore so he's responsible for the outgoings, that's a dead cert.

    I'm also pretty sure that Ivan wouldn't have come out an said we had shitloads of money to spend on players and wages if they had no intention of doing so. Wenger could easily have come out and said they were lying and stitching him up in the process.

    So that leads me to believe that it's wenger who's fucking about, not spending the money he is being offered to strengthen the squad.

    He's also 100% responsible for the endless shit we see on the pitch every week. He's single handedly looks like a bunch of retards trying to fuck a doorknob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga View Post
    Sounds about right to me.

    If we sack Wenger we'll be 70% better off that means....hang on let me work this out

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    Potato/10.

    No sorry let me try again..............
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    we'd have won the treble last season if he had been sacked last summer, well would you believe it
    Are you pissed again?

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    Wenger 80%

    Board 20%

    Main gripe I have with the board is they don't get rid of Wenger. They have said money is available which it clearly is for Wenger to spend.

    He doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cripps View Post
    Wenger 80%

    Board 20%

    Main gripe I have with the board is they don't get rid of Wenger. They have said money is available which it clearly is for Wenger to spend.

    He doesn't.
    agree 100% with this.

    Similar to what I said

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    I would have done an 80/20 split too but I think Kroenke looks like a Walrus and I don't like them so I added an extra 10% for that.

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