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    Yes thats totally how it works

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    Wenger out? No.

    One of the greatest managers of all time and our most succesful.

    More knee-jerk crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Globalgunner View Post
    NQ I really wish you would let up with the City,United,Chelsea axis of evil B.S. It is the refuge of Loser's. The reasons why Wenger fails is just down to himself and no one else. At times its as if he is actually afraid to win, maybe because, next season,he will be under pressure to win again .Wengers fails because he won't do what it takes to win, pure egomaniac
    That my friend is somebody talking facts and sense.

    Look at the amount of "small" teams that have reached finals/won cups over the last few years and you'll see not only is the talk about financial doping irrelevant but that with the right attitude and application, you can win a trophy or two. Sunderland this season, Wigan last, Everton a couple of seasons before that just to name a few. (id name Birmingham too but that'd be painful)

    I just think that we could and should have won a cup or two and the reasons we havent won anything is not just down to dirty money being thrown around, its mainly because the manager simply doesnt know how to win and wont do the necessary. I remember after that loss in the CC in 2011, i thought to myself "we'll never win anything under this guy again".

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    If I read the theory going around right, the double double winner doesn't know how to win? Is that about it?

    All I'm saying is a 3D analysis takes more factors into account than a one dimensional knee jerk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    If I read the theory going around right, the double double winner doesn't know how to win? Is that about it?

    All I'm saying is a 3D analysis takes more factors into account than a one dimensional knee jerk.
    If I read the theory going around right, the double double winner doesn't know how to win ANYMORE? Is that about it?

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    According to Tim Payton:

    Arsene Wenger out of contract at Arsenal in just 3 months. Solely his decision on whether to renew. Understand he's not decided

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    Quote Originally Posted by Globalgunner View Post
    How anybody can still think Wenger is the way of the future is beyond me. The man has never spent his transfer budget in any window. Gets himself involved in ebvery minutae of a transgfer and screws it up as a result. He could maybe be a better manager if he left others to do the jobs he corrals into his own portfolio. He is 64 and the only way from here is downward, or more of the same, if you like your trophies labelled 4th.

    thats just a stupid thing to say. just because you don't spend all the money doenst mean you are a bad manager. Last summer we spent 42 million and got Mesut Ozil, Flamini and Sanogo. Spurs spent their entire transfer budget of over 100 million and got a massive pile of shit who are now trying to leave the club.

    I do agree with those that say Arsene got it wrong in not signing a striker, clearly we needed one for the last couple of years and the higuuain saga was a fuck up.

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    Tbf why pay 35m for Higuain, when you get told that you can get Suarez for 40m?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Endure almost a decade of this stadium move business and just as it comes to an end sack the manager? That's self evidently crazy. So are we saying if we'd won the Carling Milk Cup, or whatever it is called, during the last 8 years - don't sack him? Or if we'd have won the title once and finished 12th every other season, no sacking? Or just sack him because thanks for helping build a strong financial base and keeping us in the CL but we don't like the tactics so get somebody else in to capitalise on what has been built? Mancini maybe? Or AVB? Or another great on paper figure? Pick a lottery number.

    Comedy clubs such as the chavs and the gypos have come into the game and all but transformed it from a sporting event on the pitch to a celebrity mercenary parade and a pile of devalued trophies with the price tag still hanging off them. No proper club can compete (as in financially afford) this, not even Man Utd as we can see with the wreckage left behind by Ferguson. Don't forget it was our striker developed by our manager that the great Fergie had to turn to to capture his last title in an environment where the comedy clubs were self destructing as a result of their utter disregard for the game and overwhelming urge to purchase prizes. The chavs with their merry-go-round of managers, the gypos with their dressing room knifings and chequebook solutions to each fresh mistake. Too much attention is paid to the whoring media spin on the facts. The media is just as bad as the comedy clubs, in it for and even shorter term succession of cheap headlines and thrills. These cunts aren't the history of football, their bullshit isn't a yardstick for anyone but morons and plastics.

    We still can't and surely wouldn't want to behave like the comedy clubs, but apparently we are finally in a position to challenge in the hopelessly inflated market the mobsters and sand thieves have inflicted on football. We're doing this the right way. When we eventually win something (and we will) the prize will stand for success across the board, from the way the club is run behind the scenes, right through to the way we play on the pitch. As sportsmen. That's an achievement and it will have been done despite the undiluted vandalism of pretend clubs who forego the challenge and simply jump to the end game brandishing a chequebook. We have had to actually earn the cost of admission to this game. Everything we do has a genuine value that can be traced all the way back to proper business decisions. I don't think the temper tantrums of fans are sufficient to devalue this effort and I doubt they'll be sufficient to derail it either.

    We went into this season hoping to grab 4th place again. We have done a lot better than expected. But we haven't made the type of leap that can be manufactured by doing a Harry Enfield routine. It was always likely to be that way but our over achievement generated a much bigger expectation that we originally had and now there's disappointment. But do we choose to behave like the grubby crook Abramovich? Do we say not good enough, we want it all immediately? Progression is not good, we need to leap to the end. Sack everybody if we can't have it now!

    What if we improve again in the summer? What if we improve the season after that? What if we continue to improve? Eventually we reach a place the comedy clubs don't fantasize about because it is beyond their understanding. Achievement based on merit. What a day that will be and all the pieces have now been put in place to START the process. Why stall the engine?

    Some want Usmanov and his billions pushed to the fore. Fine, but be certain of one thing - that's NOT football. Cunts like Abramovich and the 40 thieves don't fucking tell us what the game is or what it has become or what's real and not real. Fuck them. They are not football unless all the fans of proper clubs throw in the towel and accept the pile of horse shit being shovelled by the rats in the media. It's like anything else in life. Corrupt politicians are not normal just because they are in the majority. They are not "how the world just is" because none of us have the guts to string them from the lampposts.

    Our club and our manager has said there is still some football in football, under all that shit. I say we give them the chance to prove it now the hard work adjusting to the destruction wrought by non-footballing interlopers has been concluded. I say fuck the media and their 8 years without a trophy, 100 red cards manure. I say fuck the FA who apparently would have happily allowed Adolf Hitler or Saddam Hussein to plant themselves in our sport. If we try and fail then so be it but I'm not for failing before we try. That really would be the ultimate lack of ambition.

    Sack Wenger? Basically, no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonasTC View Post
    Tbf why pay 35m for Higuain, when you get told that you can get Suarez for 40m?
    We got neither because of Wenger's valuations. A glass of water is worth a fortune to a man dying of thirst.

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