Match Reaction vs 'Ammers (away).

[Power n Glory]

Our style of play wasn't a problem when we were playing an even more exaggerated form of tippy tappy to what we're playing now and he still managed to rack up assists and goals for us.

A fully fit Ozil would be just as good if not better than Fabregas playing for Chelsea, we know its about the manager not getting the best out of many of his players

When talking about players struggling with a style, hasn't that been demonstrated more so with Ozil compared to Cesc? Ozil came from a Mourinho team and is really struggling with our style. Or maybe it has nothing to do with style and it's more to do with the player being really off form? He's just as anonymous for Germany.

[Gooner23]

Just watched this as live.

Really good result against a typically direct Fat Sam team. His bleating about the off-side goal decision making it even more enjoyable.

I really do worry about Alexis picking up an injury. Just can't understand not giving Theo a run-out. But a decent enough performance. Santi is a delight to watch when on his game.

Lastly, fuck off Fat Sam

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Our style of play wasn't a problem when we were playing an even more exaggerated form of tippy tappy to what we're playing now and he still managed to rack up assists and goals for us.



When talking about players struggling with a style, hasn't that been demonstrated more so with Ozil compared to Cesc? Ozil came from a Mourinho team and is really struggling with our style. Or maybe it has nothing to do with style and it's more to do with the player being really off form? He's just as anonymous for Germany.

And since when has Ozil started to struggle with Germany?

The two-three touch pass for the sake of passing football was made to suit Fabregas, personally I'd rather get away from that style. Plus really as I posited earlier is he really the kind of player we've been missing this season, it's not like we were finishing higher than third and winning trophies in abundance when he was with us.

For me the only reason for us to have brought Fabregas back was to stop him from going to Chelsea and we aren't a club with the finances to bring in players for that reason.

We should have brought a proper holding or box to box midfielder who could break up play and dictate the pace in the middle of the park like a Vieira, and then a cheaper player who could sit in front of the defence like a Gilberto. The Ramseys, Wilsheres and Fabregas' of this world are all very well but add very little to us unless played behind the striker.

[Power n Glory]

And since when has Ozil started to struggle with Germany?

The two-three touch pass for the sake of passing football was made to suit Fabregas, personally I'd rather get away from that style. Plus really as I posited earlier is he really the kind of player we've been missing this season, it's not like we were finishing higher than third and winning trophies in abundance when he was with us.

For me the only reason for us to have brought Fabregas back was to stop him from going to Chelsea and we aren't a club with the finances to bring in players for that reason.

We should have brought a proper holding or box to box midfielder who could break up play and dictate the pace in the middle of the park like a Vieira, and then a cheaper player who could sit in front of the defence like a Gilberto. The Ramseys, Wilsheres and Fabregas' of this world are all very well but add very little to us unless played behind the striker.

Wilshere shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as Cesc. As for Ramsey, time will tell if that season he had last year was a one off.

I'm not saying Cesc would have solved our problems, just saying you should rethink what your saying regarding Ozil doing better than Cesc. It doesn't make any sense.

[Alpha]

It seems that every one is living on a moon , in a mountain of illusions .
The form or performance of a player has nothing to do with the manager . Unless it is another way of having a go at Wenger . Buying a new player is just a gamble . Some will adapt and perform well , some will not , whatever manager they play for .
Schneider , Robben , Van de var ... are top players but did not preform well under Mourinho at Real Madrid .

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Wilshere shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence as Cesc. As for Ramsey, time will tell if that season he had last year was a one off.

I'm not saying Cesc would have solved our problems, just saying you should rethink what your saying regarding Ozil doing better than Cesc. It doesn't make any sense.

Why not I think Ozils game is even more suited to Chelsea than Fabregas, statistically his ball retention, range of passing etc would be incredibly conducive to Chelsea's style of play. Mourinho rates Ozil incredibly highly and I think he'd have bought him to Chelsea had he been available earlier in the summer of 2013.

[Power n Glory]

Why not I think Ozils game is even more suited to Chelsea than Fabregas, statistically his ball retention, range of passing etc would be incredibly conducive to Chelsea's style of play. Mourinho rates Ozil incredibly highly and I think he'd have bought him to Chelsea had he been available earlier in the summer of 2013.

Ah ok. A misunderstanding on my part. Ozil could probably play better at Chelsea but then again, this is England and I also think he has a problem with the pace and physical side of the game. Cesc has the advantage in that area. I suspect Ozil is afraid of dribbling with the ball over compared to La Liga where it's not as brutal.

But I still don't understand why Cesc wouldn't show the type of form he's showing for Chelsea when he's done it for us before and with lesser players.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

I've never quite clearly understood the repeated idea that our entire way of playing was manufactured precisely for the sake of Cesc's game.

I think Cesc as the best and most influential player naturally had a part in the use of a 433 but in our actual style of play I don't believe that was wholly as a result of 1 player.

I've also always believed Cesc was superior to Ozil but I do understand part of the reasoning for not buying him and don't believe he was anything like a flop at Barcelona. It's just annoying that we didn't actually sign a player in the primary position we actually needed one in.

Wenger has form in buying a player in positions we don't suspect when everyone is crying out for somebody somewhere else so now that the fans are doing a similar thing with a genuinely world class player in Cesc when we need a TOP DCM...it almost seems poetic.

[Marc Overmars]

Schneider , Robben , Van de var ... are top players but did not preform well under Mourinho at Real Madrid .

I'm sure they were sold long before Mourinho turned up.

[fakeyank]

It seems that every one is living on a moon , in a mountain of illusions .
The form or performance of a player has nothing to do with the manager . Unless it is another way of having a go at Wenger . Buying a new player is just a gamble . Some will adapt and perform well , some will not , whatever manager they play for .
Schneider , Robben , Van de var ... are top players but did not preform well under Mourinho at Real Madrid .

Your post is seriously delusional. You cannot be serious when you say that the form or performance of a player has nothing to do with the manager!!! Take Henry for example.. not such a great player at Juventus but was turned into a great player at Arsenal due to the manager. You can apply the same chain of thought for players who didnt perform. And in recent years, we havent really set the world on fire, have we? Someone gets paid 8 million quid to do a job...