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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    I'm confused what's that got to do with anything

    Fans opinions don't matter to the board.

    To be honest I've seen what finishing outside the top four did to Liverpool no thanks....if that's what it takes to get rid of Wenger, it's at too high a price
    Fans opinion will matter a lot when he will be regularly booed.
    When you finish outside the top 4, the board is not happy either as their bank balance is not increasing so they will also be more inclined for change.

    As for you looking at Liverpool, I'd point to UTD and tell you to look at them. They haven't done too bad, have they? Why do we keep looking at the failures of others to justify not making a change? Why not look at others success? We have played the scared to make change card many times.. it's time for a change.
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    I didn't watch the game until the 74th minutes . The score tells the whole story : we have been crap throughout the game . It was sure one of those games to forget . Coquelin had a very good game though .

    People who watched the whole game seem to be eaten by their emotions and can't describe to us what really happened . It hurt when we lose but we can not afford to lose our heads for that .
    It is not the first game we have lost and it is not the last either .
    Really?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    Fans opinion will matter a lot when he will be regularly booed.
    When you finish outside the top 4, the board is not happy either as their bank balance is not increasing so they will also be more inclined for change.

    As for you looking at Liverpool, I'd point to UTD and tell you to look at them. They haven't done too bad, have they? Why do we keep looking at the failures of others to justify not making a change? Why not look at others success? We have played the scared to make change card many times.. it's time for a change.
    I'm not trying to compare us to other clubs, I'm simply saying I would be fearful for our prospects if we didnt finish 4th. People think things are bad now, but there is a whole other level of shit we could find ourselves in.
    If Wenger finished outside the top four this season he would be kept on, next season after that not sure and yes he certainly wouldn't be given a new deal. But short of getting us relegated I don't think there is anything he can do which would prompt the board to unseat him before then.
    But again we know from experience that Wenger never fails hard enough to put his job in jeopardy. Our points total this season has been shocking, and yet we are only three points away from 4th, four points away from 3rd.... Which seems to indicate that our competition for these places isn't particularly anything great either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    As for you looking at Liverpool, I'd point to UTD and tell you to look at them. They haven't done too bad, have they? Why do we keep looking at the failures of others to justify not making a change? Why not look at others success?
    How many clubs (aside from the billionaire-fueled clubs) have been a success by changing managers vs how many have failed or stagnated?
    We need to move on from Wenger but what we don't want to do is to then become a club constantly changing manager with increasing desperation.
    That's why it needs to be planned carefully, especially given how involved Wenger is in all aspects of the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    How many clubs (aside from the billionaire-fueled clubs) have been a success by changing managers vs how many have failed or stagnated?
    We need to move on from Wenger but what we don't want to do is to then become a club constantly changing manager with increasing desperation.
    That's why it needs to be planned carefully, especially given how involved Wenger is in all aspects of the club.
    Bayern Munich, Dortmund, Barcelona, Athletico, Man Utd (so far this season) have done well with different managers. Even I do not want our club to become a club constantly changing managers but I also do not want to be scared of change if there is a need. Right now, we are being stubborn sticking with Wenger despite the fact that change is needed right now. This to me is unacceptable when you want to be rolling with the top dogs in Europe. As these defeats become more frequent, I am sure the board will draw up a contingency plan (if they havent started already) for Wengers replacement.

    He is very quickly losing all the goodwill he had from fans and soon it'll be the board. Its just a matter of time now and frankly speaking, I cant wait!
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    Lovely result to come home to..... I despair. The fat ginger Dutchman going on about how they can finish above Arsenal should have been motivation alone.....

    Lame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    Fans opinion will matter a lot when he will be regularly booed.
    When you finish outside the top 4, the board is not happy either as their bank balance is not increasing so they will also be more inclined for change.

    As for you looking at Liverpool, I'd point to UTD and tell you to look at them. They haven't done too bad, have they? Why do we keep looking at the failures of others to justify not making a change? Why not look at others success? We have played the scared to make change card many times.. it's time for a change.
    Bloody good answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    Bayern Munich, Dortmund, Barcelona, Athletico, Man Utd (so far this season) have done well with different managers.
    Is that the Dortmund currently in the relegation zone?
    And Utd...well, they crashed and burned when Moyes became manager, he took the reigning champions into 7th.
    This season they've picked up a bit having attempted to bought their way out of trouble but they're only 4 points above us.
    It's interesting you think that's them 'doing well' and we're in crisis, 4 points below them.

    There are examples where changing manager helps, obviously, but sometimes only in the short term. Whatever you think of Wenger he's always thought about our long term future and deserves credit for that if nothing else. He's so deeply involved with all aspects of the club that his departure needs to be carefully planned.

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    Sigh ....... I really thought we were due a decent performance and we would get it against Southampton who despite being a good team aren't really that better than us.

    Honestly, even though we were poor I don't think Southampton were that much better than us; a nil nil wouldn't have been that undeserved. That being said the two complete blunders on our end for the goals were just so moronic that we did deserve to lose that. Stuff you wouldn't see at under 13 level, let alone among supposed highly paid professionals.

    I'm really getting sick and tired of Sczechny. I've defended him for ages but the sad fact of the matter is that he hasn't improved at all since he's been number one. If you look at the vast improvements made by other top young keepers such as De Gea and Courtois, who are now lighting up the league it becomes even more evident how poor he is....... in fact he's probably regressed ........ mid table GK if that. His decision making and judgement is still absolutely shocking. And when was the last time he ever won a game for us like they have for their teams? If Petr Cech is available and Mourinho is willing to give him to us, there should be no questions asked about it. Also we really need to fire Gerry Peyton and get someone better in because I don't think it's a coincidence that our recent succession of GK's here have been utter shit. I mean look how well Fabianski looks now at Swansea despite looking hopeless here at times.

    The attack was useless again apart from a few moments of quality from the Ox. And having to rely on two kids to anchor the midfield against beasts like Wanyama .......... it's the result of poor planning from Wenger, stockpiling AM's and thinking he can leave a critical part of the team to an aging and makeshift Arteta or a freebie from Milan who has zero discipline. Indefensible.

    All in all, an impotent attack combined with shit tier individual mistakes - a lethal combination.

    The fan running onto the pitch to confront Wenger just capped of the misery. I know people are rightly frustrated but there's no need for that; you don't what type of psycho's there are these days. It's just a game at the end of the day.

    I think worse than the loss is just how deflated and unenthusiastic the fanbase has become as seen from above with MO not even watching the game. Even though I thought the abuse at train station and running on the pitch was OTT, I seriously applaud the away support for their commitment in this current time of mediocrity and despair. Best fans in the league tbh.

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    I still think his shot stopping and ball handling are excellent, but his decision making is really poor right now. If Ospina is fit now he needs to start.
    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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