I'm not sure that's valid, for much of the last 10 years we've not had the resources to challenge the big boys properly. It's only in the last couple of years we've had the new financial muscle, the new level of signings have made a clear difference. We should have challenged last year, we got off to an awful start which gave us no chance. This year we've not done that, we're in touch and I think we've got a chance. The concern for me is not the mentality - I've highlighted endlessly the hopeful signs I've seen about that - it's the over-reliance on a couple of key players and the perennial injury problems.