Match Reaction v Aston Villa

[gooners]

wenger's hands are tied; he was forced to pay denilson 40k p/w by board only to loan him out later then flog him.

the board have been forcing wenger to pay bendtner such huge wages so much so we can't get rid of him.

the board have tied wenger's hands ....(fill in the blanks)

[Özim]

wenger's hands are tied; he was forced to pay denilson 40k p/w by board only to loan him out later then flog him.

the board have been forcing wenger to pay bendtner such huge wages so much so we can't get rid of him.

the board have tied wenger's hands ....(fill in the blanks)

Yeah and the board force him to stay in a job paying 7 million a year......oh how cruel they are.

Poor guy, someone save him

[Niall_Quinn]

Yeah and the board force him to stay in a job paying 7 million a year......oh how cruel they are.

How does a statement like that even begin to stand as a reasonable argument related to the conversation? It's just juvenile.

[Cripps_orig]

Impressive thread

Havent read all of it

Someone summarize

[Niall_Quinn]

I don't think there is any grand conspiracy in it. Two of his key players wanted to leave while Barca and Man City were trying to stiff us on the price. That's why he looked rattled. He went to the Board and told them to lower the fee for Fabregas so we can't make out as if it was forced on him by the Board. We've seen a similar outcome with RVP and it took a phone from Fergie to get the deal done. He didn't call Stan, PHW or Gazidis. He called Wenger and the deal was done.

Now on the flipside, we have Walcott. How comes he's been allowed to run his deal down so far to the point where we lose him for free? If something fishy were going on, wouldn't Walcott have been sold this summer? Wenger wouldn't let men with inferior knowledge of the game interfere with his team in such a way. He wouldn't happen on his watch.

Injuries have been a problem but I disagree with the Ramsey assessment. He used to play suicicidal blind passes before his injury. His awareness and passing had always been shit and awareness has nothing to do with a past injury. His shooting though, that has always been good and he hasn't lost that but because we miss ball carriers in the middle and around the park that can create space for him, he's not able to find pockets of space anymore.

As for the cups...the money behind each trophy is probably how it is prioritised but that isn't an excuse. We shouldn't have lost a cup final to Birmingham and there are teams that are able to win doubles. Is it impossible to go for 4th, go for Europe and win a domestic cup? I don't think so. And you have to question the sort of guy Wenger is when he blatantly ignored the pleas of the fans and his players like this. He's able to put the boards priorities first but won't even attempt to treat the players or fans to a little treat.

If you're going to fuck us over at least bring home the roses once in a while. Mean bastard.

Wenger tried to force the price up for the RvC deal didn't he? And Walcott wants out. These two transfers don't necessarily tie in with the mad window a couple of years back anyway. Again, we are playing with pieces of the puzzle. It doesn't make any sense at all that Wenger would try to force the price down just for the sake of it. Surely anyone can accept that? There must be other connected circumstances. If there aren't then fair enough and strange indeed. But let's not just accept the fact Wenger was trying to get the worst deal possible without also accepting there may be more to it than was made public.

Ramsey showed sparks of potential I said, didn't mean he was the finished article. But he plays like a 40 year old now, for whatever reasons.

This is getting into what goes on on the pitch. No point arguing about it because I don't know what the reliance on non-performing players is all about, or the weird substitutions or the rest of it. Those are the areas in which I think we'd benefit from a new manager with new ideas. But whether somebody can be found to meet the additional requirements of the job is another question.

[Niall_Quinn]

Impressive thread

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0-0

[Cripps_orig]

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So the thread was as exciting as the match?

We can blame Wenger for the match. No one can dispute that. Who do we blame for the thread?

[Power n Glory]

Wenger tried to force the price up for the RvC deal didn't he? And Walcott wants out. These two transfers don't necessarily tie in with the mad window a couple of years back anyway. Again, we are playing with pieces of the puzzle. It doesn't make any sense at all that Wenger would try to force the price down just for the sake of it. Surely anyone can accept that? There must be other connected circumstances. If there aren't then fair enough and strange indeed. But let's not just accept the fact Wenger was trying to get the worst deal possible without also accepting there may be more to it than was made public.

Ramsey showed sparks of potential I said, didn't mean he was the finished article. But he plays like a 40 year old now, for whatever reasons.

This is getting into what goes on on the pitch. No point arguing about it because I don't know what the reliance on non-performing players is all about, or the weird substitutions or the rest of it. Those are the areas in which I think we'd benefit from a new manager with new ideas. But whether somebody can be found to meet the additional requirements of the job is another question.

There isn't much to figure out and there is no grand conspiracy. If Wenger has the ability to try and force up the price for the RVP deal, get the board to accept less for Cesc's deal and keep hold of Walcott even though we lose money, what is that telling you? There is a level of control there staring right at us but you're refusing to see. Again, Fergie called Wenger to negotiate the RVP deal. It really does seem like you're trying as hard as possible to fit this into a major conspiracy involving the board. Again, Fergie called Wenger to get the deal done. One manager spoke to another manger. That's a clue in how managers do business. Stan didn't call the Glazers's to push the deal through.

It's pretty simple. You've seen Wenger's reaction when people undermine him. Do you really think he'd stand for the board selling his players without his approval?

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

Impressive thread

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BWK's 5-7 TPS

BWK's took a 4-0 lead as well

Truth Prevails Society

[Özim]

How does a statement like that even begin to stand as a reasonable argument related to the conversation? It's just juvenile.

You ignored my valid points completely so I moved on.

Fact is he's no victim he's a big problem and part and parcel of this money thing, he endorses it and gets paid handsomely for it.