As a third midfielder in a tighter trio Cesc is probably a better player but as a number 10 in a 4231 then Ozil is preferable.
As a third midfielder in a tighter trio Cesc is probably a better player but as a number 10 in a 4231 then Ozil is preferable.
https://www.biography.com/.image/c_f...1236-1-402.jpgOriginally Posted by Power_n_Glory
It's the manager, stupid!
If you don’t send this signature to ten people, you will become a Spurs fan.
I think we are all disagreeing over semantics here. Ozil is a very good player, a world class number 10 in the RIGHT system or when a system is actually implemented!
The issue here is that he along with most players in the team don't function or play to their highest level. There is no real structure or defined style applied to the team, it's absolutely bonkers and to be honest...we are where we are through individual talent, not through any kind of logical system.
This team lacks a heart, leadership and identity.
Of course with Ozil, it is up to him to put in a shift and take responsibility but until the fundamental flaws are addressed within this team Ozil will continue to churn out sub-standard performances in the big games because he is allowed to get away with it, he is one of Wenger's "untouchables", he is not accountable for his poor performances. Wenger has built a culture at the club where losing is acceptable, he has built a culture where it is OK for players not to take responsibility, the "excuse" making culture, we didn't lose on Saturday because they are a better team than us and have a dedicated system, we lost because of the "illegal" first goal, that is the culture that exists at Arsenal and it stinks to high heaven.
I have absolutely no doubt that with a strong tactical manager we would be challenging for the title, properly challenging, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the quality of our first XI or squad and I believe many players in our team including Ozil would be playing at a higher level.
Last edited by selassie; 06-02-2017 at 09:59 AM.
I wrote something similar to this weeks ago regarding Ozil, Ramsey, and Xhaka. Glory_N_Alternative_Facts still thinks it's all the players.
We have some top class played on this team and Ozil has performed at a higher level than Arsenal in bigger matches than we have played. You cannot accurately judge any of our star players until Wenger is gone. Every problem with our play is down to a guy who has no idea how to organize a team in today's micromanaged tactical world. Wenger is the problem.
Horse manure, you think that because of what Leicester achieved last season that Ranieri is a tactical genius and it wasn't the players giving every sinue of effort to give them the title.
Wenger hasn't got it, we know that.......but the players aren't children and i think they are just as guilty of betraying the manager's trust as he is guilty of misguidedly giving it to them.
Let's not pretend that because Mourinho was a narcissistic arse, that there is not a toxicity in the dressing room caused by players like John Terry who essentially downed tools during his last few months, and it will happen with Conte as well not this season but either next season or the season after that.
Last edited by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie; 08-02-2017 at 04:35 PM.
You can't betray a manager's trust over a period of 10 years. Not unless there is something very, very fucked up with the manager.
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Alternative facts?
Can anyone explain to me how the heck the system we play stops a player from doing the simplest thing any player can do and track back?
Or something as simple as jumping to defend a header?
Man, if you guys don't knock off this bullshit about the 'system'....
When will common sense kick in? If you’re at work and have to contact an important client on deadline day but emails aren’t working, is that an excuse not to work at all? How about picking up the phone?
As said with Ozil, he’s super talented, has pace, can dribble and pass. Ok, passing isn’t working but seek an alternative way to win the game if you’re truly world class. The best in the world aren’t so easy to stop. What pisses me off more than anything is that he’s one of the few that’s capable. People are often surprised by sudden burst of pace or dribbles because he shows it. Take some initiative. If you’re hammering it out for 80 odd minutes with unsuccessful pass after pass and still losing, when will it the light bulb shine to try something different? It’s the same sort of thing I hammer Arsene Wenger for with his rigid approach. Ozil is one of the few players capable of adapting his play.
Also, no matter how much I can’t stand Wenger as manager it doesn’t mean players can get away with some of the performances we’ve seen. You’ve seen the clips of Sanchez and Ozil walking and not defending against Chelsea. For the Hazard goal we saw similar to what Ramsey pulled against Watford. What has that got to do with the system? It’s inexcusable.
Last edited by Power n Glory; 08-02-2017 at 04:52 PM.
Well we know that there is, like i say constantly it's not binary. Blaming the players doesn't mean absolving the manager
It means though that these players who have played for us have taken the easy ride offered to them by the manager, and considering what they are paid that's pretty reprehensible.
It also means frankly that even in the slim to nil chance Wenger goes in the summer, so many players would have to follow him out of the door.
Ramsey, Walcott, Cech, Monreal, Ospina, Coquelin probably all need to go.....they reek of capitulation
Ozil doesn't care, yeah a brilliant player but we currently aren't benefiting from having him in the team.
Last edited by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie; 08-02-2017 at 04:54 PM.
I think Raineri a)got lucky with it being a down year b)has always been good tactically based on his past successes c)got Kante d)got good PEDs for his players
I don't think the players are children, but football is won on the margins now. Arsenal are losing on the margins now because Wenger has no idea how to organize a team properly. Our teams have no clue now. the best teams are micromanaged and Wenger is the opposite of that.
I dont care about Mourinho (who is also past it) or Conte. I care about what Im seeing at Arsenal.
yes, you are Alternative Facts.
Hazard was slated for not defending earlier at the Emirates. Killed. He struggled earlier this season.
Conte liberated that from him and told him to stay higher up the pitch. Now Hazard is back to being a killer. Wenger doesn't play to Ozil's strength to help the team. I said it earlier, the man should be used as a forward and not as a 3rd midfielder. He tried it on Saturday but they moved back because no one had an idea how to deal with Pedro. Thats down to Wenger.
Coquelin is a bummy footballer, but Wenger wants him to contribute to our attack. He
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