Skipped?Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
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I think we are arguing semantics here. If someone goes round calling someone a "Bl*ck Bastard" or "Wh*te Sh*t" or whatever then you are a racist, or are you saying that someone can make such comment(s) but not be deemed racist? The purpose and intent of such a comment is to mock someone of a "different colour" or "race", that to me is racism.
Where do you draw the line? Stating that you just made a racist remark but are not racist is a ridiculous cop out. Making such comment is an action that is meant to offend.
Moreover, you don't have to be part of Klu Klux Kan or the BPN to be a labelled and viewed as a racist.
Your examples are not in anyway comparable to the Suarez comment either.
Who said he's going to change? Even ollie has accepted he'll do the same to us as he has to his previous clubs and leave in a few years.And through desperation some here think it's all suddenly going to change
I think most people realise that hoping for morality and justness in football is futile and are just glad to be potentially signing a tried and tested superb player for once.
If we want to talk about rights and wrongs and how it will damage the club's standing, I'm afraid football is an irreparably damaged institution and Arsenal Football Club is undoubtedly tarnished too.
You either accept you're watching a shitty, but often highly entertaining, sport and be at peace with it or tune into a decidedly non-grubby alternative.
Like cycling.
As much as i loathe the party line pulling Arseblog - a very good extract from a piece:
But what I find most dismaying is the revisionism that’s gone on since our interest has become public knowledge. I don’t remember too many Arsenal fans defending him when he was banned for 8 games for the Evra incident. I don’t remember too many Arsenal fans saying that biting somebody isn’t really that bad when you think about. I don’t remember too many Arsenal fans who said anything other than Suarez, for all his talent on the field, was a pretty despicable person whose antics, cheating and nasty play made him one of the most loathed characters in the game.
Yet now, people are falling over themselves to make excuses for him. Like the Liverpool fans everyone so roundly mocked because of their deep understanding of South American Spanish and in the intricacies of the use of the word ‘negro’, some Arsenal fans are now cunning, expert linguists. They know what he said, how he said it, what it means on the streets of Uruguay, and look, Evra is a twat anyway so it doesn’t really matter.
Bang on the money - especially about the Evra is a twat
Right on there Sir, but some aspects cant just be ignored because of it.
optimistic i know.
Oh I agree, I'm just saying it how I see it. I see him as a great player and a welcome addition to the team if he joins, he is a massive upgrade on any striker we currently have.
Despite all that, I think he's a horrible human being, Zimm and others have listed what he has done to date and like you stated I don't think he'll change, he has a long history of these incidents.
well if he doesn't get the basics of football tribalism, then he'll never get his head round it.As much as i loathe the party line pulling Arseblog - a very good extract from a piece:
But what I find most dismaying is the revisionism that’s gone on since our interest has become public knowledge. I don’t remember too many Arsenal fans defending him when he was banned for 8 games for the Evra incident. I don’t remember too many Arsenal fans saying that biting somebody isn’t really that bad when you think about. I don’t remember too many Arsenal fans who said anything other than Suarez, for all his talent on the field, was a pretty despicable person whose antics, cheating and nasty play made him one of the most loathed characters in the game.
Yet now, people are falling over themselves to make excuses for him. Like the Liverpool fans everyone so roundly mocked because of their deep understanding of South American Spanish and in the intricacies of the use of the word ‘negro’, some Arsenal fans are now cunning, expert linguists. They know what he said, how he said it, what it means on the streets of Uruguay, and look, Evra is a twat anyway so it doesn’t really matter.
Bang on the money - especially about the Evra is a twat
I'm surprised that anyone is surprised at the Arsenal fans reaction. Suarez is a top player - of course we want him. We don't care if he's a wanker, show me a footballer and I'll show you a wanker. They are absolute scum but Suarez would be our scummy wanker and that's all that matters.As much as i loathe the party line pulling Arseblog - a very good extract from a piece:
But what I find most dismaying is the revisionism that’s gone on since our interest has become public knowledge. I don’t remember too many Arsenal fans defending him when he was banned for 8 games for the Evra incident. I don’t remember too many Arsenal fans saying that biting somebody isn’t really that bad when you think about. I don’t remember too many Arsenal fans who said anything other than Suarez, for all his talent on the field, was a pretty despicable person whose antics, cheating and nasty play made him one of the most loathed characters in the game.
Yet now, people are falling over themselves to make excuses for him. Like the Liverpool fans everyone so roundly mocked because of their deep understanding of South American Spanish and in the intricacies of the use of the word ‘negro’, some Arsenal fans are now cunning, expert linguists. They know what he said, how he said it, what it means on the streets of Uruguay, and look, Evra is a twat anyway so it doesn’t really matter.
Bang on the money - especially about the Evra is a twat
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