Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit

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I knew this summer would play out like any other

The bullish statements in June about the war chest, the frenzy of media activity linking us to everyone. The hint that we are close to signing a top quality player only to miss out due to us not paying the amount required. Same shit every year. This one went even further though by linking us with really unrealistic deals which made no sense. Prepared to pay 40m on a player with so much baggage its ridiculous, from a club determined to not to sell, yet unwilling to pay considerably less than that on a player who was available and at one stage seemed to be being pushed towards us.

Just what the f'ck is going on with this club?

[Niall_Quinn]

I acknowledge it, I just don't agree with it. As said, if we're talking in the realms of business and greed, it makes no sense for the club to play such games with their number 1 asset and not in his final year of contract. I've never understood why the Board let the wage bill increase but act so cheap when it comes to transfer fees. It doesn't make sense at all for them to be okay with the wages but not with the fees. Surely they'd look to keep both at a low cost?

I think Wenger's latest interview gives a lot away. He prefers to work with young players and to nurture talent. He values hard work and as a result we lost key players because they were unwilling to wait. The numbers and sales match the theory. I find it hard to believe that we'd penny pinch on transfers but nobody blinks when it comes to signing contract extensions.

Okay.

Let's say you are approached by a greedy coscksucking son of a whore piece of shit rat bastard **** who wants to sell you a company. The company has a machine that costs £100 a year to run. The company has a manager that has historically secured 10 customers for the last 10 years each paying £20 for the goods produced by the machine. You are being offered the company for £100.

You know if the manager keeps performing you get £100 per annum profit if all things remain equal. The customers are a bit pissed off with the product you are producing and angry they have to pay £20 for inferior goods. But they need the goods and there are no other suppliers. A monopoly then.

So let's say you want to get a quadruple return on your investment. How long before you can sell out and take your profit? 4 years.

Question. If you are happy with the quadruple return (as part of a portfolio of similar investments) why would you ever want to rock the boat? Now if that manager does indeed go on to consistently earn the target figure and you see your investment growing, if the machine is not worn out yet and still has enough life to get you through to the cash out, would you buy a new machine? Would you fuck with the arrangement in any way at all? No, not if you were smart.

By greedy I mean the guy is using the club and everything it stands for as a machine to yield a desired return. As for the manager, it's a job well done isn't it?

The only way this is bad if you start looking at it from the point of view of the customer. Or the fan.

[Niall_Quinn]

I think Wenger's latest interview gives a lot away. He prefers to work with young players and to nurture talent.

And by a happy coincidence that's the cheap option.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Actually, what is all this shit with the £40m bid being made out to be derisory???

It's a club record bid for arsenal and its being treated like we offered them a tenner and spat on their shoes as we held it out!?!?

Fuck off you scouse ****s!

[Harland]

Actually, what is all this shit with the £40m bid being made out to be derisory???

It's a club record bid for arsenal and its being treated like we offered them a tenner and spat on their shoes as we held it out!?!?

Fuck off you scouse ****s!

Well tbh maybe Wenger expected them to act like us when we sold RVP to Man Utd.

What Wenger didn't consider was that Man Utd are actually willing to stump up that extra cash for a player in his last year.

On the other hand, I would have liked to take pleasure in Ollie cracking, but honestly it just eats me up all the more. The lack of regard this club has for loyal fans is ridiculous.

[JonasTC]

Seriously, even the media has given up and stopped doing transfer rumours about us.... this looks really bad :s Besides Suarez and Fellaini, is there actually any players available that could improve our squad as much as those 2 would?

[Cripps_orig]

Arsenal will have to pay £55m if they still want Suarez after the striker dropped his pursuit of arbitration as a means of leaving for less.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Suarez has not requested Premier League intervention in his contract dispute with Liverpool, one week on from Arsenal's club record bid of £40,000,001 for the Uruguay international.
Full story: the Guardian

Suarez to Arsenal

[Globalgunner]

The only problem we have is a football manager who has usurped the authority of a business manager and because of his earlier success has hijacked all powers to determine the ethos and philosophy of this club. Face it, the club and Wenger are indistinguishable from each other.
I personally do not believe he was ever a great manager, not in the pantheon of Shankly and Ferguson at any rate. He was fortunate to identify some unique young talents from his early days at Monaco such as Vieira and Henry who were unappreciated at Thierry respective clubs and brought them over, mixed them with the best of what existed in Roich s team and it was a magic formula. That team didn't need coaching. It just needed to be sent out each day to do it's thing.A geat coach would have reached incomparable heights with our squad of 1998-2004.

Unfortunately, Fergie killed the dream, his relentless will stymied us from winning again in 1999 and it took the addition of Pires to see us triumph again in 2002. Wenger is no manager, he is just a glorified scout whose eyesight is now failing. Yet he looks in the mirror and still sees Einstein and Picasso rolled into one.

The board are guilty of giving him too much authority thier judgment clouded by the early successes. Now he is responsible for determining everything at the club. Wages, staff hiring etc. Winning has been redefined to what HE thinks is ethical and not what the club is capable of achieving. Hehas retreated into the safety of 4th place achievement because winning outright has become too hard. What with the monster of Chelsea and City now Turing a once 2 horse race into a do or die dash for CL cash. in this will window he probably wanted Higuain more than anyone else but felt miffed by Madrid s raising of the price after all had supposedly been agreed. A more pragmatic manager would have swallowed his pride and paid the extra that RM wanted and we would have all moved on to other targets but now we are floundering and likely to get no one. Therefore all his recent jargon about nurturing youth and such twaddle. If Gazidis had any authority at all he should have insisted we pay the 35m for Higuain, he may have even said so but I am guessing Wenger simply told him, he no longer wants the player, never wanted him all along.
We may likely sign no one, as we are beholden to Wenger wishes. An owner who cares not for winning with a manager who has forgotten what the word truly means. The only silver lining is that he will do his best to qualify again for the CL as he will want once again to prove the doubters like me wrong who refuse to believe that you can make a great menu with poor ingredients and a great team with average players.

The killer signing for me will be Wenger getting a new contract, which I have no doubt he will. Ergo, the death of Arsenal as a superclub

[Harland]

Seriously, even the media has given up and stopped doing transfer rumours about us.... this looks really bad :s Besides Suarez and Fellaini, is there actually any players available that could improve our squad as much as those 2 would?

Gareth Barry and Loic Remy

[Marc Overmars]

Damn, it was Ollie's blind faith that was keeping me going.

Now that's even gone.

Arsenal.