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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    What makes you sure any of these want to come to this club seeing how we are. maybe the board have started looking and have had no luck.
    berkgamp would. klinsmann's in USA and a contract offer could tempt him. rijkaard's managing in saudi arabia so he'd come from that shithole. koeman's managing feneyoord, arsenal would be very tempting.

    on top of that jurgen klopp who's always stated his desire for us. and he loves the youth policy but actually gets his team winning trophies.

    there are managers out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxPeck View Post
    Since the board won't pay for the players he wants, Wenger has decided to take the piss until they cough up or sack him.
    Would not suprise me if this were true tbh, I can see the board not wanting to sack wenger means they have to pay him off, and him maybe staying till he gets paid off or not wanting to loose that money.

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    and may i add what we need is a manager who surrounds the youth with experienced backroom staff, whom better than their idols aka invincibles.

    harry got in half the spurs legends at spurs and now look at them. mancini got in a few legends back at city's backroom staff, look at them.

    get keown, adams, parlour, seaman, bergkamp in. all have stated they wanna help out ffs.

    a new manager could do that.

    wenger out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by She Wore A Yellow Ribbon View Post
    and may i add what we need is a manager who surrounds the youth with experienced backroom staff, whom better than their idols aka invincibles.harry got in half the spurs legends at spurs and now look at them. mancini got in a few legends back at city's backroom staff, look at them.

    get keown, adams, parlour, seaman, bergkamp in. all have stated they wanna help out ffs.

    a new manager could do that.

    wenger out.
    should get them in as coaches tbh, imagine having Berkamp as Striker coash etc, the impact would be massive to players and fans alike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    The squad is poor and has been since the summer, Half are kack and the other half can't be arsed.
    I think there is a general lethargy which is catching. New players are good for a few weeks then the general mood drains them. There are two solutions. Either a kick-ass new manager who takes advantage of the 'new manager' syndrome, gets them performing and winning games, or the same manager but a serious and mega clearout of the squad - I mean a number of players all out at once. I'm thinking Rosicky, Diaby, Arshavin, Djourou, Walcott as a starter. Get in some people who can shoot and/or have some drive and experience. We need a run of games were we not only win, but players other than RvP get their shooting boots on and contribute some goals. At the moment, the confidence of the squad is shot. It is not a skill issue or anything like that - it is an inability to play because they don't trust themselves or each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    should get them in as coaches tbh, imagine having Berkamp as Striker coash etc, the impact would be massive to players and fans alike.
    yes thats what i mean backroom staff/coaches.

    someone who they fucking listen to.

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    Wenger:

    Pro's:
    Able to manage a side on a small budget
    Spots talent
    Able to bring youth through (see Fab, Jack, etc)
    Makes the club money
    Reinvented the whole club

    Con's:
    Stubborn
    Tactically niave
    Unable to motivate
    Doesn't show respect to the opposition
    Has too much power

    And inbetween:
    Can't/Won't spend


    I'm at a loss as to what would happen if he went. I'm at a loss as to what would happen if he stays.

    There seems no easy way out of all of this mess.

    And the most frustrating thing of all?????

    He has the ability to manage Arsenal, and win stuff for us again.
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxPeck View Post
    I think there is a general lethargy which is catching. New players are good for a few weeks then the general mood drains them. There are two solutions. Either a kick-ass new manager who takes advantage of the 'new manager' syndrome, gets them performing and winning games, or the same manager but a serious and mega clearout of the squad - I mean a number of players all out at once. I'm thinking Rosicky, Diaby, Arshavin, Djourou, Walcott as a starter. Get in some people who can shoot and/or have some drive and experience. We need a run of games were we not only win, but players other than RvP get their shooting boots on and contribute some goals. At the moment, the confidence of the squad is shot. It is not a skill issue or anything like that - it is an inability to play because they don't trust themselves or each other.
    Has been like this since the CC final tbh and we have not snapped out of it. Beating Chelsea as good as it was this season, shows it was nothing more then papaering over the cracks tbh.

    I agree about new players coming in looking good for a few weeks then the mood draining them. we have seen it with maroune last season and Gevinho this season.

    Players are not happy because all they keep seeing is dissapointment. IMO wenger needs to go will it change a whole lof of things ? no but its a start to rebuilding well i say that we have been rebuilding for the last 4 seasons since hleb and flamini left tbh, had we tweaked that team we'd have been better off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    Has been like this since the CC final
    Yes. It might be the smallest trophy but it would have given a winning feeling - who knows what the effect on the rest of the season would have been. Oh - and it wasn't all down to Szczesny/Kos as some said at the time. That was one mistake. Given it was Birmingham, why were we not already 2 or 3 goals up by that time? Again, no-one bar RvP up for or able to shoot straight. Same old. Same old. I get angry that from about 2006, we have had the ability to get the ball to the other side's 18 yard box and had no-one who could do anything with it. I'm not looking for fancy tippy-tappy talent. I want one of any number of cheapish players who could do the job over that period - couple of years back, for instance, even someone like Mark Viduka - so maybe he is not Messi, but give him the ball in the box and he would do something with it rather than ponce about like the tippy tappy shit we have at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
    Wenger:

    Pro's:
    Able to manage a side on a small budget
    Spots talent
    Able to bring youth through (see Fab, Jack, etc)
    Makes the club money
    Reinvented the whole club

    Con's:
    Stubborn
    Tactically niave
    Unable to motivate
    Doesn't show respect to the opposition
    Has too much power

    And inbetween:
    Can't/Won't spend


    I'm at a loss as to what would happen if he went. I'm at a loss as to what would happen if he stays.

    There seems no easy way out of all of this mess.

    And the most frustrating thing of all?????

    He has the ability to manage Arsenal, and win stuff for us again.
    Nice list of Pro's & Con's there LDG. I personally think Arsene is only here on sentiment, he would be gone at any other Top 4 club. If we're judging Arsene on a results only basis then there are a number of Managers out there who are more advanced than him now, he's basically a shell of the man we saw in charge of the invincibles.

    I personally think and have done for a couple of seasons now that we need a fresh start, a new manager with fresh ideas. Arsene is finished, I don't trust him and don't think he's anywhere near capable of delivering any kind of success, he couldn't even deliver the Carling Cup last season against a struggling side who are now in the Championship.

    I respect Arsene for his past achievements but want him moved on now, don't rate him, don't want him here.

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