Is there another "top bracket" manager who has gone 7 seasons without a trophy?

[Grebbo]

He does not have to go on the bench, but if you don't think the best player in the league can't get into that team, well good luck to you.

Fergie plays 4-5-1 so yeah one of them goes on the bench.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Fergie plays 4-5-1 so yeah one of them goes on the bench.

He plays 4-5-1 because he does not have the best player in the league in his team.

Look, you made a mong statement in what was otherwise a fairly decent point. Deal with it and stop digging.

[Syn]

Which team's squad are you comparing to? Only City have a better squad.

I'm surprised anyone thinks otherwise.

I'm comparing it to Man City's. And I would say it's on a similar, if not lower, level than Chelsea's. But in any case, the point isn't about how many teams have better squads, it's how much Man City's squad is better. To be neck-and-neck with them is a pretty good achievement.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Welbeck had been starting with Rooney quite often. I think the whole argument about who gets in to the other's team a bit nebulous though. We don't play as Man Utd do in an attacking sense so what players they have are not neccesarily the ones that would start for us and vica-versa.

[Power n Glory]

Fergie isn't going to win the league with that Manure side and he's the greatest manager of all time.

He won last year. Give Wenger that same crop of players to coach and he'd struggle. Disagree if you want about league positions but it's still no excuse to lose out every year in the Carling Cup and FA Cup.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Fergie plays 4-5-1 so yeah one of them goes on the bench.

No they both play in a 433. its just that Bebatov is poor and Harnadez has had second season blues.

[Grebbo]

He won last year. Give Wenger that same crop of players to coach and he'd struggle. Disagree if you want about league positions but it's still no excuse to lose out every year in the Carling Cup and FA Cup.

How did Fergie do in the CC and FA Cup this year?

I think Wenger is shit but we're not going to do any better, all I'm saying is it's tough to win shit these days. You should have set your sights lower a long time ago. Most of us could see the glory days were long gone when Roman came to town. We now have a sheikh to deal with too.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

He won last year. Give Wenger that same crop of players to coach and he'd struggle. Disagree if you want about league positions but it's still no excuse to lose out every year in the Carling Cup and FA Cup.

You may be right, but we'll never know. so its an irrlevant point.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

How did Fergie do in the CC and FA Cup this year?

I think Wenger is shit but we're not going to do any better, all I'm saying is it's tough to win shit these days. You should have set your sights lower a long time ago. Most of us could see the glory days were long gone when Roman came to town. We now have a sheikh to deal with too.

Spot fucking on.

[Grebbo]

I'm comparing it to Man City's. And I would say it's on a similar, if not lower, level than Chelsea's. But in any case, the point isn't about how many teams have better squads, it's how much Man City's squad is better. To be neck-and-neck with them is a pretty good achievement.

Yeah sure but Manure have 20yrs worth of winning mentality and are the biggest club in the league. That still brings a lot of fear factor which gets you a long way. Lot's of teams (and ref's) don't even bother turning up against them.

We don't have that.

I still think you're underestimating Manure's squad but it's all about opinions. And of course Fergie is better than Wenger.