So what do we do to improve our prospects of mounting a challenge for the league and other competitions.

[AKBapologist]

Also, you can't have it both ways, either the squad was good enough (which you should give credit to the manager for doing) or it hasn't been. So many times you've twisted that argument to suit what ever point your trying to make.

[Joker]

You don't have do much to win a cup tbh, thats the entire fucking point. Mostly, luck, ref decisions, injuries have way more greater influence than what ever wenger did or didn't say to koscienly on that fateful day.

We've screwed up consistently in cup semis/finals for a while now, just look at:
Chelsea in the Carling Cup Final 06-07
Spurs in the Carling Cup Semi-final 07-08
Man Utd in the Champions League Semi-final 08-09
Chelsea in the FA Cup Semi-Final 08-09
Birmingham in the Carling Cup Final 10-11

You can't just put all that down to random chance. It takes a certain mentality to be able to come through these types of games, and it's clear the manager hasn't been able to instill that sort of mentality into the players. If you say, well that's because the players aren't capable of coping in big games, well then the manager bought these players, so the buck stops with him.

[AKBapologist]

oh fuck off - so it's everyone else's fault but wengers? have a word with yourself.

No, I just don't have the same idiotic belief that changing the manager solves won't replace one set of problems with another. Too many clubs over the last season have tried and failed to do exactly what your suggesting, so much so that most outside of here have begun to get a hint.

[Kano]

No, I just don't have the same idiotic belief that changing the manager solves won't replace one set of problems with another. Too many clubs over the last season have tried and failed to do exactly what your suggesting, so much so that most outside of here have begun to get a hint.

so we stick with wenger forever is what you are saying?

[Joker]

There's always a risk with changing a manager, but we can't be so conservative that just because it could end up leaving us in a worse position we won't change the manager. We're stagnating as a club, and while changing the manager won't be a panacea it is needed as a first step IMO.

[Kano]

Also, you can't have it both ways, either the squad was good enough (which you should give credit to the manager for doing) or it hasn't been. So many times you've twisted that argument to suit what ever point your trying to make.

the squad has been good enough - which is down to wenger.

but the organisation of said squad has not been - which is also down to wenger.

[Xhaka Can’t]

No, I just don't have the same idiotic belief that changing the manager solves won't replace one set of problems with another. Too many clubs over the last season have tried and failed to do exactly what your suggesting, so much so that most outside of here have begun to get a hint.

Nobody believes that changing the manager is going to solve all the problems. But it could be a component along with a whole host of factors in improving the competitiveness of a team that has gone stale.

[LDG]

the squad has been good enough - which is down to wenger.

but the organisation of said squad has not been - which is also down to wenger.

Reality.

When it hits home.

It's like.

Woooooaaaaah Dude!!

[Kano]

sadly my eureka moment happened on a football forum

[AKBapologist]

the squad has been good enough - which is down to wenger.

but the organisation of said squad has not been - which is also down to wenger.

Show me a manager who has done more, with less, consistently been in more cup finals and finished above us on less resources, show me that, with actual stats, that the problems we had last season are indeed the same we had this season, and I'll happy submit to your world view that wenger doesn't know how to organise a team.

Other wise, fuck off.