I can't fucking wait for one of these fucking petro-clubs to go bang.Originally Posted by gooners
Once again we are owned by billionaires not a charity.
It used to be 'we don't want that, will destroy the tradition of the club'. Now it is whether or not "They see the clubs as very expensive play-things" or run the club like Sainsburys.
I'm gonna laugh my fucking cock off.
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
Anyone who's actually advocating the way Chelsea and City are run is an utter, utter cocktard.
Oh I think you'll find that everyone finds it "wrong". But we should still spend beyond our means anyway, because *stomps feet*
Yes, there are people who will say that our board are milking this, that or the other. But they clearly have no fuckin idea. The money which they will earn out of the club is based on share sale, not the profit on transfers. NOBODY could really avoid the slightly hostile takeover by Kronke...purely because everyone, Arsenal fans included, sold the **** their shares. Same goes for that russian mob (thanks David, you ****). In fact, we don't operate as a massive profit making organisation. Simple maths can tell you that we don't earn billions out of selling shirts and seats and pies.
What we do have in surplus cash (to an extent) is reinvested. But it has to be done sensibly, because you don't know what is round the corner, and the assumptions of what cash we actually have to spend is also dependent on many other variables, and fixed outgoings. Despite which, people have to remember that profit doesn't equate to cash.
The problem we have as a club has been the way we have been run, to an extent. It's the way in which we have negotiated our sponsorship deals etc, and the way we market ourselves. We clearly fucked up with the wages we pay (though I can see the logic behind it).
The people that claim we should be spending to keep up with City et al, are completely deluded. Yet they are the same people who say we should be sacking Wenger, when it's pretty obvious he's kept us in the top four clubs in England without spending.
Yes, we can spend a bit more, and hopefully we will. But these fuckin numpties who roll eyes and act all billy big spuds are utter fucktards.
Just focus on the football, because most people, me included, haven't got the foggiest how we run ourselves as a business. But one thing is for sure, in the most part, we're run so that we're not indebted to some tosser who can fuck off whenever he feels like it. If Kronke goes, the clubs still survives as normal. If dirty arab **** goes from city (without leaving massive presents) they're fucked.
I should say, however, that I'm sure we have enough cash to be investing a bit more. And that is the frustrating part...waiting for Arsene to deal is like pulling your teeth out.
Last edited by LDG; 24-08-2012 at 09:09 AM.
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
If Malaga isn't a warning against it, I'm not sure what is.
This.
No we are not, not sure why you keep saying this, none of those guys OWN the club.Once again we are owned by billionaires not a charity.
It used to be 'we don't want that, will destroy the tradition of the club'. Now it is whether or not "They see the clubs as very expensive play-things" or run the club like Sainsburys.
i think you make an excellent point.
it's not sport anymore, it's all about money. our beautiful game has disintegrated beneath our very own eyes.
*whispers* yes they do, Charlie.
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
When i say Own i mean in a Roman way, as he Owns the club, where as i see ours as the 2 biggest shareholders. If One bought out all the shares then id say he owned the club etc.
I think most people realise that there is a clear mismanagement of funds at Arsenal. Nobody is suggesting we compete with the oil money clubs. But most people by now understand that we pay far too much to average players and not enough to our first team key players. It's possible to pay a few star playere massive wages, just trim the wages of guys like Djourou and Chamakh and stop hiking up the wages for kids based on potential.
Yes, it's about making fuller use of our resources. How about not making a profit in every transfer window, and actually spend more than we earn through sales just once? That way, we can replenish the squad rather than purely replacing departing players, and we may give ourselves a decent chance of lifting some silverware. That could galvanise the club in a very positive way.
But no, as we have seen with the Sahin non signing, we are so obsessed with the business side of things, and on minimising costs, and are willing to damage our chances of silverware just to save a few million pounds.
I do think if Kroenke was actually an Arab, he'd get a lot more stick tbh. You see how often the ethnicity of Man City's owners are brought up, which suggests there is some prejudice there as well.
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