financially restricted?
we have a £143m wage bill. thats the 4th highest in the league. where's the financial restriction in that then?
oh yeah there isn't one.
only suits the argument when people want it to.
we have a £143m wage bill. thats the 4th highest in the league. where's the financial restriction in that then?
oh yeah there isn't one.
only suits the argument when people want it to.
4th highest in the league and we finish 3rd. Does that suit your argument?
A distant 3rd that is and have won fuck all in years.
You seem to be forgetting about all those 4th place trophies, oh and don't forget it's been 15 straight seasons or something in the CL, no other club has done that.Originally Posted by JoshGooner
Top, top, top achievement.
Let's stay on topic. We're talking in relation to wages spend. We're 4th highest wage spenders and we finished 3rd. In talk of inefficiency lets not ignore that especially when trying to claim others are selective.
I appreciate the flattery but can you stop stealing my lines? Ta.
Go ahead. Honestly, I wouldn't care if it was sandwiched between a decent point like mine.you know you really should try having a discussion without having to throw personal insults.
I could easily call you any deragatory term for being a perennial Wenger apologist, but I don't do that, do I?
Also the world is ending any minute now so I'm feeling a bit edgy.
And to stay on topic, the 3 teams that are slightly ahead of us on wage bill all have something tangible to show for it. What do we have except making up numbers in the CL for a considerable amount of years now.
Fuck, we're currently at round of 16 and we are heavy, heavy underdogs, expected to crash out to a real big club.
Well it's all well and good moaning about that but it doesn't make a sound point at all. I'm only arguing against the silly comment that we are not performing according to our financial spend. We clearly are. I'm not interested in whether there's another £60m stashed away that we can spend to get us among the top 3 wage spenders and win something - because, unlike a lot that chuck their 2 pence worth - I try to think a bit. I don't know how much the club have stashed away and don't pretend to. Obviously I would love the club to spend more and for us to (properly) progress. There is still room to progress even with our current spend - e.g. by not having rubbish pre-planned substitutions and getting our organisation and tactics right. No doubt a more tactically astute manager would have us higher in the league than we are currently, but does he get the Cazorla's in for £14m odd as well? I don't know...but it's time to try something new.
Btw for those interested, Deloitte are the only official source for all premier league team wages. Each year they publish the wages for premier league clubs (with a year lag, of course). So far the latest figures we have published in 2012 are:
And then accounting for a very low net transfer spend (even profits, like last year) relative to other clubs, there is no doubt we are doing at least doing what supposed to do given what we spend. The issues are that we can probably do even better with better team management, and whether we do actually do need our net spend to be so little. Going the extra mile at times - a few million more for Alonso etc. can't hurt too much, can it?Chelsea - £191m (up from £174m in 2009-10)
Manchester City - £174m (£133m)
Manchester United - £153m (£132m)
Liverpool - £135m (£121m)
Arsenal - £124m (£111m)
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18248540)
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