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    Lets say Theo and Ox didnt play yesterday, what are the chances they wouldnt have bust up their hammy's this weekend? Theo didnt even play on the weekend and Ox started the weekend game after being a sub for many games. As for the warming up situation with Theo, I dont think thats a valid excuse. There are many times injuries to players have resulted in substitutions without much warm up... I dont recall such a fuss being made when the players dont get injured. I think this summer was a good time to have packed Theo's bags and got a replacement.. what a waste!

    Frankly, I am sick and tired of injury prone players like Ox, Walcott, Rosicky and Wilshere. Heaven knows why we hold onto such liabilities for so long. The season is only 3 months old and if these fuckers are already dying, then an extra 4 days of rest wouldnt have made much difference. Somehow these very same players are given new glittering contracts year after year to do fuck all... Diaby is a prime example of this shitty policy. Offload these players and bring players who can play half a season at least!
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    It's Theo's own responsibility to ensure he's prepared for the game. If he's thrown on at short notice, then he needs to make sure he doesn't over exert until he's sufficiently warmed up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    Lets say Theo and Ox didnt play yesterday, what are the chances they wouldnt have bust up their hammy's this weekend? Theo didnt even play on the weekend and Ox started the weekend game after being a sub for many games. As for the warming up situation with Theo, I dont think thats a valid excuse. There are many times injuries to players have resulted in substitutions without much warm up... I dont recall such a fuss being made when the players dont get injured. I think this summer was a good time to have packed Theo's bags and got a replacement.. what a waste!

    Frankly, I am sick and tired of injury prone players like Ox, Walcott, Rosicky and Wilshere. Heaven knows why we hold onto such liabilities for so long. The season is only 3 months old and if these fuckers are already dying, then an extra 4 days of rest wouldnt have made much difference. Somehow these very same players are given new glittering contracts year after year to do fuck all... Diaby is a prime example of this shitty policy. Offload these players and bring players who can play half a season at least!
    Jheez! You guys really kill it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    Re the Theo thing, I missed what happened as only saw some of the match. From what I heard at half time, he had to come off cold from the bench once Ox pulled up. That is often the case for early injuries, in that no-one expects them, the sub has to strip down and get on asap. Nearly all players in that circumstance do not then go off injured themselves 10 minutes later, I mean, how much running could Theo have really done in that period on the pitch anwyay? Walcott is just an accident waiting to happen, this is just his yearly break on the med table.


    This is very true. Anyone who has played competitive football will know that your coach will tell you to ease yourself in (if you havent been able to warm up). And frankly I dont remember Theo doing anything worthwhile in that 10 minutes to blame it on the 'warm up'. Frankly in that 10 minutes, he was actually just warming up. Its not like we were peppering their goal. The fact is that he is a crock and his time is quickly running out.
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    You've been beating with this Theo injury prone story but ignoring the bigger picture. Bringing on a player from cold and using a senior player at that is a silly risk to take. But besides that fact, we've got 3 players out with muscle strains and all sustained in the first half. This is the 5th time in a row Ramsey has gone out with some sort of muscle strain injury, mainly hamstring since 2013/14 season. Why?

    Ox hasn't been with the club long and he's already spent 359 days out injured. He hasn't played through a season without a lengthy lay off. Ozil has racked up more injuries for us in his entire playing career. He's not an injury prone player but I'd put money on him having some sort of muscle strain before the New Year. It's something to do with the club. There is no way we should be losing two players like that within 10 minutes.
    I know I've been here before with you about this, so I'll repeat the same thing. I couldn't care less. I've been in and out of this injury argument over the years and because there isn't a single person that can come up with a definitive answer I don't have the energy for it any longer. Some can rely on memory to build an argument, others may use short term facts to show things are no longer as bad (http://www.arsenalreport.com/posts/i...wonders?page=1). No one seems to know. All I care about is the bottom line. Theo? Good player but can never be a long term option, not even worth debating that point given his history. Last night is just another in a long line of break downs which will occur again and again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Douglas Reynholm View Post
    It's Theo's own responsibility to ensure he's prepared for the game. If he's thrown on at short notice, then he needs to make sure he doesn't over exert until he's sufficiently warmed up.
    This.

    Also it's hardly like Theo strenuously exerted himself in the few minutes he was on either. All I recall was him making a few minor runs before hobbling off. He's just a perma-crock.


    Anyway, minor update - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...rn-Munich.html

    The Telegraph says it was a minor calf strain and he's probably only going to miss three games. Won't be the end of the world if true.

    Time for Giroud to step up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    I know I've been here before with you about this, so I'll repeat the same thing. I couldn't care less. I've been in and out of this injury argument over the years and because there isn't a single person that can come up with a definitive answer I don't have the energy for it any longer. Some can rely on memory to build an argument, others may use short term facts to show things are no longer as bad (http://www.arsenalreport.com/posts/i...wonders?page=1). No one seems to know. All I care about is the bottom line. Theo? Good player but can never be a long term option, not even worth debating that point given his history. Last night is just another in a long line of break downs which will occur again and again.

    And we seem to be racking up a few more players with the same problems. They just haven't been at the club as long. It's a pattern throughout the squad and why we we're down to the bare bones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    The season is only 3 months old and if these fuckers are already dying
    This actually made me, as the kids say `lol`.

    True though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    And we seem to be racking up a few more players with the same problems. They just haven't been at the club as long. It's a pattern throughout the squad and why we we're down to the bare bones.
    As I said, conflicting opinions that offer no insight at all. The bottom line is all I'm interested in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    As I said, conflicting opinions that offer no insight at all. The bottom line is all I'm interested in.
    The bottom line is we pick up a lot of injuries. That's a fact. We'll see who else falls this year to similar problems but players like Ozil and Sanchez start to fall you can understand why I'd buying different players won't solve this.

    What's also strange is the fact that it's our British core players that we've had since their teens that are the most injury prone. Everything they have learned about conditioning and fitness have come from the Arsenal camp.

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