Reaction Vs Aston Vanilla

[Power n Glory]

Welcome.
It's nice to finally have an ally

I genuinely don't understand the negativity on here, certainly not the level of it. We've just won the FA Cup twice in a row, we're currently top of the league and have qualified for the last 16 of the CL. What other set of fans would be calling for the manager's head under those circumstances? We have, admittedly, had a pattern of falling short and if that happens again then we do need to consider a new manager - we should be challenging for the biggest prizes. Ironically of course, that expectation comes from Wenger's time with us. Before that we were never a side consistently challenging for the league. But with the first half of Wenger's time with us and the new stadium comes new expectations. But I don't understand why people on here look for any opportunity to dig at the manager. If we lose or even draw vs City next week you'll see more of the same. And I do see that game as quite important, it's the sort of game a potential champion should be winning. But if we do lose we're not going to suddenly be out of the title race.
Whatever. For now I'm content with how this season is going. If and when we fall out of the title race then I'll reassess.

You're a WUM. The negativity stems from you baiting posters. It started off as a match reaction.

[Letters]

You're a WUM. The negativity stems from you baiting posters.

As NQ did endlessly early season with the "it's too early to judge..." nonsense

[Power n Glory]

As NQ did endlessly early season with the "it's too early to judge..." nonsense

So you're playing tit for tat but can't understand the negativity?

[Niall_Quinn]

Another response to this, as I just thought of it.
When's the last time you saw Usain Bolt run flat out in a heat? He doesn't because he doesn't need to. He could blow the opposition away, win by miles but why give your all in the first round when he can conserve some energy and save it for the final? If that's what we did yesterday then that's fine with me. We won the game, let's save some energy for bigger tests to come, like City next week.

4 x 10 second bursts over 2 days bears no resemblance to a football match whatsoever. Dumbest analogy we've had on here for a while. Shame you just thought of it.

[Bumble]

Villa were awful, if they stay up I will be stunned.

[Maestro]

What a cold day to join GW, daaaamnnn!!!

[Letters]

4 x 10 second bursts over 2 days bears no resemblance to a football match whatsoever. Dumbest analogy we've had on here for a while. Shame you just thought of it.

I see you ignored the point earlier about how the Invincibles often blitzed teams and then coasted through games.
No team plays at full throttle every game. Never have, never will.

[alexander]

Welcome.
It's nice to finally have an ally

I genuinely don't understand the negativity on here, certainly not the level of it. We've just won the FA Cup twice in a row, we're currently top of the league and have qualified for the last 16 of the CL. What other set of fans would be calling for the manager's head under those circumstances? We have, admittedly, had a pattern of falling short and if that happens again then we do need to consider a new manager - we should be challenging for the biggest prizes. Ironically of course, that expectation comes from Wenger's time with us. Before that we were never a side consistently challenging for the league. But with the first half of Wenger's time with us and the new stadium comes new expectations. But I don't understand why people on here look for any opportunity to dig at the manager. If we lose or even draw vs City next week you'll see more of the same. And I do see that game as quite important, it's the sort of game a potential champion should be winning. But if we do lose we're not going to suddenly be out of the title race.
Whatever. For now I'm content with how this season is going. If and when we fall out of the title race then I'll reassess.

Im with you too Letters.
As a fan, I want to win everything, every game. But as an adult I realise it just is not possible. We are up against it already with the big money being poured into certain teams, but we are performing pretty well. Im happy so far. Yes we have had blips, we always have, always will, but we are sticking right in there.

I started supporting/going to games when i was 7 (1987) Ive seen some good times from back then, Ive seen some dire times (some mid 90s periods were a shambles). I think we need to appreciate the continued high level we have stuck too these last few years.
We are far from perfect, I know that, but I for one prefer this to the yoyo-ing of teams like Spurs and liverpool etc.

[Stilts1964]

Suggest you shut your own hole pal before telling others to shut theirs. Public discussion forum, I'll say what the fuck I want, when I want, until the owners decide otherwise.

Fair point and you are correct this is an open forum so you are quite rightly entitled to share your thoughts.

Apologies for upsetting you. It's just when you are top of the league, the current FA Cup holders and through to the last 16 of the CL it's hard to understand what there is to complain about. If you can't enjoy those moments and show your appreciation then when can you?

But my biggest concern is that if/when things don't go as you would wish then those fans who feel we should win everything all of the time playing football of the finest quality (and I don't mean the quality of George Graham, Bruce Rioch, Mourinho etc but the flowing intricate style that has been the hallmark of Arsene Wenger) will not get behind the team but would rather criticise and blame.

For me, the definition of a true fan is to show your support, allegiance and encouragement in the good and the bad times. There are too may "fans" who will only do the former.

Don't get me wrong, I am not condoning mediocrity but in my opinion we are far from mediocre (but you are free to have your own definition)

I know what type of supporter I am - it would be interesting to know what type you are?

[IBK]

Welcome.
It's nice to finally have an ally

I genuinely don't understand the negativity on here, certainly not the level of it. We've just won the FA Cup twice in a row, we're currently top of the league and have qualified for the last 16 of the CL. What other set of fans would be calling for the manager's head under those circumstances? We have, admittedly, had a pattern of falling short and if that happens again then we do need to consider a new manager - we should be challenging for the biggest prizes. Ironically of course, that expectation comes from Wenger's time with us. Before that we were never a side consistently challenging for the league. But with the first half of Wenger's time with us and the new stadium comes new expectations. But I don't understand why people on here look for any opportunity to dig at the manager. If we lose or even draw vs City next week you'll see more of the same. And I do see that game as quite important, it's the sort of game a potential champion should be winning. But if we do lose we're not going to suddenly be out of the title race.
Whatever. For now I'm content with how this season is going. If and when we fall out of the title race then I'll reassess.

Some of the negativity is probably OTT - I'll give you that. But scepticism about Arsenal is not hard to understand. I don;t think that there is a team in the EPL that has consistently flattered to deceive like we have. The frustration comes from the fact that we are a 'big team' that has underperformed for 10 years, and FA Cup or not we have not achieved what one of the 10 biggest teams in the world would be expected to achieve. Some fans are not happy with being nearly men, and have been deceived too many times into thinking that things have changed. Personally, I am still able to enjoy a good result without having to return to a theme, but I can understand why some fans feel that enough's enough. Let's hope its different this time, but Wenger has work to do to convince us that things have really changed.