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    Funny that fans being behind them when they were "low on confidence" didn't help either.

    As for feeling sorry for yourself and responding the next game, we've had a month and half of feeling sorry for ourselves and not responding, a draw at Spurs doesn't change much.

    A draw was a decent result beaing in mind the circumstances, but in the context of what's happened before it's a poor result, we needed to win and didn't and have fallen further behind.

    Of course though he's proud, we'd have been more proud if we'd actually not gone down to 10 and won, what a clown.

    Wenger warns Arsenal fans: Your negativity isn't helping the players!

    “I prefer that the fans are happy but I’m more worried that it can get to the players’ confidence level,” he said. “I feel we have shown a great response as a team that we can deal with that.”

    He added: "You can feel sorry for yourself or respond straight away next game – that’s why I think the group is healthy and there’s a good mentality.”
    http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/...P_HN_HP_RI_0_1

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post





    Just read that, great balanced article.
    My only issue with the article is the fawning to Alisher Usmanov

    Kroenke is a greedy billionaire who cares not one jot about our club, but whatever else he is, he's not a gangster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    My only issue with the article is the fawning to Alisher Usmanov

    Kroenke is a greedy billionaire who cares not one jot about our club, but whatever else he is, he's not a gangster.
    Kroenke is a type of gangster. Like your local racketeer who runs a protection racket on your street, he attaches himself to the efforts of others in order to steal a living, rather than use his own labour to earn rewards. He doesn't use bullets against those who won't play his game, he uses cash. He's part of an exclusive gang that can muscle its way into peoples lives whether wanted or not and then leech a lavish existence. He's worse than a gangster in some way. At least with a gangster you can go to the police if you are brave enough. Kroenke and his type are rich enough to create laws that make themselves immune to justice. They are like the Untouchables in reverse.

    But no reason to idolise Jabba of course. He's both. Rich and gun toting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    My only issue with the article is the fawning to Alisher Usmanov

    Kroenke is a greedy billionaire who cares not one jot about our club, but whatever else he is, he's not a gangster.
    Aye Herb i'm with you on that. I have no interest in Usmanov moving things forward. Top level management (Kroenke, Gazidis and Wenger) at the club needs to be removed, never going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    My only issue with the article is the fawning to Alisher Usmanov

    Kroenke is a greedy billionaire who cares not one jot about our club, but whatever else he is, he's not a gangster.
    Neither of them care one bit about the club. Yet fans are convinced themselves that the Russian will come in and spend endless amounts of money to turn us into City/Chelsea. When in fact he is right behind Wenger (for obvious reasons) and couldn't care less about onfield success.

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    So what we're saying is basically we're screwed, we want Wenger gone but Kroenke won't get rid and we can't get rid of Kroenke either as Usmanov is just as bad and noone else will realistically come in. Let's just accept 4th place is as good as it's going to get for the foreseeable future and also accept the fact we're not a top club in the real sense on the pitch that we're just going to have to watch the other clubs fight it out for the big prizes whilst we settle for their scraps.

    I'd prefer to try something new personally as the current setup sure isn't working. but hey ho clearly there's no options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    Neither of them care one bit about the club. Yet fans are convinced themselves that the Russian will come in and spend endless amounts of money to turn us into City/Chelsea. When in fact he is right behind Wenger (for obvious reasons) and couldn't care less about onfield success.
    I'm not sure about that he was very scathing of Wenger a year ago and has even offered money for transfers free of obligation (of course that means nothing with a man like that).

    My issue is what Usmanov represents, yes Kroenke is an accquisitive piece of shit but not responsible for violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    I'm not sure about that he was very scathing of Wenger a year ago and has even offered money for transfers free of obligation (of course that means nothing with a man like that).

    My issue is what Usmanov represents, yes Kroenke is an accquisitive piece of shit but not responsible for violence.
    His opinion is obviously as fluid as his bank account

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...-he-wants.html

    When the other director is so quiet, it is easy for him to speak up and fill the void with whatever nonsense he wants.

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    Great article exactly on point. many of the same things have been pointed out for years on this forum. Wenger uses Arsenal as a life support mechanism. yank it out of him and he will likely shrivel up and expire within years. No joke. The sad part is a man who should have used his comfortable position to push this club forward has instead settled for the self preservation model. Give the man on top what he wants even when it is mediocrity, just polish it up once in a while with glimpses of greatness and oh-so-close attempts at winning big things. I really dont blame him anyway. a man cannot give what he doesnt have. Wenger never had the tools to be a top top manager, he just lucked his way to a winning formula when he came here.

    Will he jump or will he have to be shoved into the mud. My guess is it will need a Mutiny on the bounty scenario where the officers eventualy turn on the Captain.

    I dont agree about Alisher Usmanov. He is 4 times the billionaire that Kroenke is. He wants Arsenal as a vanity project. We may not like it but isnt that essentially what we are anyway, except to a tight arse instead of a show off. Usmanov only said the nice things about Wenger not to alienate the substantial base who still believed in this con man. That audience is gradually thinning. I would bet that Wenger wouldnt last a season if Usmanov takes over.
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    Wenger now saying we've beaten Leicester twice so we've done our job. What about all the other games we've thrown away you absolute loon

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