Match Reaction vs Bayern Munich (home)

[Niall_Quinn]

My God, this guy's voice. It's like a stressed turbine.



Moh, AKB in disguise.

Please, somebody switch him off.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

he has a point in that in terms of league position finishing we are on par for the size of the club, and that whilst we can expect to be doing better and not capitulate all the time we cannot expect to directly compete with the likes of Bayern Munich and Real Madrid without an Usmanov spunking money at the club.

What we can expect is not to fall at the last 16 of the CL every season, not to collapse in the same familiar way when we have a title challenge, and in the next 13 seasons maybe win the title once or twice.

[Letters]

I thought I'd completely missed the match then I find a whole bunch of posts by me here. So I guess I must have watched it. What was the score?

5-1



...just don't ask who to.

[Niall_Quinn]

Bit embarrassing to be an Arsenal fan at the moment.

[Letters]

I bet we show those Lincoln chaps a thing or two though...

[Niall_Quinn]

he has a point in that in terms of league position finishing we are on par for the size of the club, and that whilst we can expect to be doing better and not capitulate all the time we cannot expect to directly compete with the likes of Bayern Munich and Real Madrid without an Usmanov spunking money at the club.

What we can expect is not to fall at the last 16 of the CL every season, not to collapse in the same familiar way when we have a title challenge, and in the next 13 seasons maybe win the title once or twice.

We've finished on average 14 points behind the champions over the last 10 seasons and we're likely to hit that average again this season. Whatever the financial variance, we aren't seriously competing and we haven't been for a long time. The CL thing underlines that. It's an appalling record for a club this size.

[Marc Overmars]

My God, this guy's voice. It's like a stressed turbine.



Moh, AKB in disguise.

Please, somebody switch him off.

Moh.

I've never heard someone speak so much but actually say very little.

[Özim]

This club has literally no pride left, time after time after time we get thrashed, you'd at least expect they'd give it a good go or keep it reasonable in the return but every single time we get beaten and show no real fight and desire, it's just not acceptable.

To me it just shows they don't really care that much as a group and that clearly the manager is incompetent at this level, like I said before this club is unrecognisable from 10 years ago and not in a good way. We're in a right mess, no other big club capitulates like us so often, if it does happen to them it's a one off, with us though it happens every single season, sometimes several times a season, just not acceptable.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

We've finished on average 14 points behind the champions over the last 10 seasons and we're likely to hit that average again this season. Whatever the financial variance, we aren't seriously competing and we haven't been for a long time. The CL thing underlines that. It's an appalling record for a club this size.

Oh Totally, but to be fair on Moh i don't think he's defending this or claiming we are seriously competing

[Marc Overmars]

This club has literally no pride left, time after time after time we get thrashed, you'd at least expect they'd give it a good go or keep it reasonable in the return but every single time we get beaten and show no real fight and desire, it's just not acceptable.

To me it just shows they don't really care that much as a group and that clearly the manager is incompetent at this level, like I said before this club is unrecognisable from 10 years ago and not in a good way. We're in a right mess, no other big club capitulates like us so often, if it does happen to them it's a one off, with us though it happens every single season, sometimes several times a season, just not acceptable.

The players are not playing for him anymore, they're completely beleaguered and lost. They need a new voice and some leadership and organisation. Wenger needs to make a public announcement on his contract because it's killing us.