Yeah, if were half as good as sorting out problems as we are at finding excuses, we'd be world beaters. But as it's easier to blame circumstances and everything else, we're not.Originally Posted by ItsMe
Yeah, if were half as good as sorting out problems as we are at finding excuses, we'd be world beaters. But as it's easier to blame circumstances and everything else, we're not.
As LDG said, you can see what's wrong down on the pitch and it's having a knock on effect with the players. They don't have the confidence, they're frustrated, lack guidance, lack leadership but our manager has a firm belief in his philosophy and nobody can tell him other wise. If you look at the team, read the quotes from some players, compare us to Championship winning teams and you can see what needs changing. How we go about it is a different matter and their are probably many solutions to our problems but we're going down the same path every year.
- We don't have a world class keeper. We shouldn't have to depend on Szczesny and Fabianski.
- Our defence is too young. We don't have a single CB with solid premiership experience. Such CB's will make mistakes. Throw an inexperienced goalkeeper in the mix along with wingbacks that like to bomb forwards and you've got exposed defence ready for the taking.
- We can't defend set pieces. Corners and free kick crosses are always a danger for us. With such a young defence, they have no idea how to organise a defence so that's not surprising.
- We're no good at scoring from set pieces or crosses. We've seen Clichy and Sagna's poor attempts and the amount of times the box is empty when a good ball is eventually delivered. If we can't deliver a decent cross, then how are our defenders supposed to learn how to defend against such threats in training?
- We've got a load of players playing outside of their natural position. Gibbs is not a left back, Arshavin is not a winger, same goes for Nasri and Rosicky. They're more like central attacking midfielders. Cesc is a central midfield player and not an attacking midfield type player suited to play in the hole. Nobody would play Xavi, Xabi Alonso or Pirlo further up field to link up with the striker like Gerrard used to do with Torres.
- Walcott isn't a right winger. He's not great with the ball at his feet. Has no tricks, just pace but he's had to work damn hard at learning that role.
- Bendter is not a winger.
- We're too one dimensional. We stick to short passing, always play ball to feet and never try to exploit space. When teams sit deep it's difficult, but our counter attacks are none existent these day. We take our time getting up the field.
- Tactically, Wenger is pretty poor. When looking for a goal, he just throws on more attacking players without actually changing formation or approach to our attack. It's just more of the same. If an opposing wingback is on a yellow card, we won't focus our attacks on that weak side. You'll hardly see Theo swap flanks to go down the left to trouble one of their defenders.....etc.
With these sort of problems, players lose confidence. What we do to sort it is a different matter. Change players, change manager, change coaching staff....I'm open to whatever as long as I see a change somewhere in our approach.
my opinion is, im not sure.
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Yes. We lack a little bit sharpness.
It's difficult to say. You could make the argument that he doesn't know what he's doing or what's going wrong. 6 trophy-less years provide evidence and the fact that he doesn't get the players, or play the system or manages the game like we think he should at times can be used to support this.
But.
He loves the club although this may be due to the fact that he has a free reign to do as he pleases and to try to play the style of football he appreciates.
We don't know the extent to which his embargo on buying the players who might make the difference is board-imposed or self-imposed. He gets alot of stick for the 'youth project' but when considering the financial reality of football today, it would appear to be a sound and long-sighted strategy (and one which may, in theory, pay dividends when fair play rules come in). You can hardly blame a manager for sticking with young players and players who just haven't broken through when the funding isn't there to buy other players. Maybe it's all his hare-brained idea or maybe he's playing the hand he's been dealt the best he can.
He's managed to build a side which is in the top 4 year in and year out although spending minimally on new players. When you do that, you're a prisoner to a greater or lesser extent to one or two personality issues. If you can't cycle players in and out like Man city or chelsea, one or two losers in the side can drag the rest down.
He's been managing football for a long time, has been an innovator in his day and it's hard to believe he's only of average understanding. He's a perceptive and studious man and it would be hard to believe he doesn't understand the issues at hand. But understanding and fixing, or being able to easily fix, are two different things.
Much of what he says in interviews, which enrage many fans and lead them to suspect he's an ignoramous, aren't meant for us. Rather the statements he makes are meant for his team and for other teams vis-a-vis the transfer market.
Personally, I believe he understands the problems but has a commitment to a style of play, is limited in terms of financial wherewithal and says only what he feels has the best impact on his team or what will help him get a better price in transfer negotiations.
Last edited by Unai Tea; 23-05-2011 at 08:45 PM.
It's not a case of preference, but more of winning football. As Marc Overmars mentioned before, Wenger's best teams were built on a solid 'British mentality' base, and then added to with continental football.
Wenger's current team have all the continental aspects, but none of the traditional british ones (Strength, stamina, determination). We lack a Tony Adams like figure in the team to address these issues on the pitch.
It's the English Premier League, we should focus on building a team to succeed in this environment. Instead of complaining that the other 19 teams in our league should play more 'Beautiful' football.
This is the basic fault of Wenger. He wants everybody else in Football to adopt his approach (rather than a more pragmatic - if you cant beat them, then join them attitude).
It's Wengers main character flaw and it is preventing him from making the required changes. Thats why he has to go. Now.
All you hear from him these days is how we play the right way and we do the right things and financially we are sensible etc etc..., he's become a bit of a preacher trying to convince everyone it's all OK because our way is the only way.
When teams don't play the way he believes they should, he complains and rather than thinking about it and maybe realising that they're not going to change and we have to, he ignores everything he see's and continues to follow the same path.
At what point does someone look at something and say i've tried but it doesn't work let's try something different, by now most people would have but it seems to me he simply won't.
He goes on about doing things the right way and then ignores the fact the fans are treated very poorly and with very little respect, yet they're the ones who have made the financial side viable in the 1st place, double standards if you ask me.
Last edited by Özim; 24-05-2011 at 08:40 AM.
This
You all sound like Chelsea fans tbf.
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