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[selassie]

Why are so many people worried about how fast a defender is, especially at CB.

Two names for you Adams, Bould!!!!.

Bould couldnt catch a bloody cold let alone Joey Deacon so I am not so sure as a CB speed is a major factor.

To be fair when Adams & Bould were in our defence we actually use to train defence and they both had the knowledge & know how to compensate for their lack of speed. We also didn't play such a high line.

We don't necessarily need a really speedy CB, but we certainly need one who can hold his own speed wise. Because we play a high line, the only way we'll get away with a slow-ish defender is if either the said defender is tactically brilliant, Samba & Mertesacker aren't. Alternatively we'd have to change our defensive tactics to accomodate a slow-ish defender. The likes of Samba & Mertesacker aren't good enough for us to change our defensive system.

[Fats]

To be fair when Adams & Bould were in our defence we actually use to train defence and they both had the knowledge & know how to compensate for their lack of speed. We also didn't play such a high line.

We don't necessarily need a really speedy CB, but we certainly need one who can hold his own speed wise. Because we play a high line, the only way we'll get away with a slow-ish defender is if either the said defender is tactically brilliant, Samba & Mertesacker aren't. Alternatively we'd have to change our defensive tactics to accomodate a slow-ish defender. The likes of Samba & Mertesacker aren't good enough for us to change our defensive system.

Understood however maybe we need to address the problem with the strategy not the players?

As said previously, even if we had the best defenders in the world it would make no difference then?

[selassie]

Understood however maybe we need to address the problem with the strategy not the players?

As said previously, even if we had the best defenders in the world it would make no difference then?

For sure the strategy is flawed, Arsene either has to find someone who can coach defence or at a push go out and buy the 'finished product' who will come in and do the coaching/organising bit for him. This is where a Jagielka comes into it, obviously he's not the finished product in a Vidic/Terry/Rio sense but he's the closest thing we can afford to a World Class CB who is based in PL. Buying in experience without fixing the strategy isn't ideal and is a very short term bodge fix...but it's better than doing nothing.

I personally don't think anything will change, we won't buy a player that can really improve our defence and Arsene won't bring in somebody to coach defence.

[Niall_Quinn]

Why are so many people worried about how fast a defender is, especially at CB.

Two names for you Adams, Bould!!!!.

Bould couldnt catch a bloody cold let alone Joey Deacon so I am not so sure as a CB speed is a major factor.

Joey Deacon? How much is he going for? I didn't know he was a CB, I thought he was a celeb spaz. But if he's cheap and useless, get him in!

[selassie]

Jagielka for me.

Vastly experinced in the Premier League, consistently a top performer for Everton. Their fans love him and view him as a real leader.

He isn't the 8 ft beast some people want, but he would offer some much needed organisation and leadership to the back 4, more so than the others I feel.

He is also the best footballer out of that lot.

Not sure on Cahill - he's 26 now and hasn't seemed to improve since he was a youngster.

Jagielka can also cover Song in CM.

I don't think Jagielka even wants to come to us. I've read in various places that he doesn't see us as a big enough step up to up roots and leave Everton.

[Fats]

Joey Deacon? How much is he going for? I didn't know he was a CB, I thought he was a celeb spaz. But if he's cheap and useless, get him in!

I think Spurs have him NQ

Showbiz name of Harry Redknapp I believe!

[Niall_Quinn]

I think Spurs have him NQ

Showbiz name of Harry Redknapp I believe!

There must be some other cheap, incredibly awful, piece of shit defender out there! We can't have bought them all yet!

[Fats]

There must be some other cheap, incredibly awful, piece of shit defender out there! We can't have bought them all yet!

Yup but are we out of the "waiting period"?

[Darth Vela]

I don't think Jagielka even wants to come to us. I've read in various places that he doesn't see us as a big enough step up to up roots and leave Everton.

That's balls in all honesty, wave a fat contract and CL football under his nose and he'll happily sign.

[Master Splinter]

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