Random Arsenal Shit (When it's not worth starting a thread)

[JonasTC]

I think you are only saying this because it is unlikely Sagna is going to sign a new contract with us - or more specifically, we are unlikely to do enough to retain him.

No im saying this because im tired of money hungry players that shows no loyalty to their team. He is already rich as fuck and apperently its not enough for him to be the best paid RB in the league, he wants even more...

[Niall_Quinn]

Of course, should add - IF any of the shit in the daily bog roll is true. Which, let's face it, it highly unlikely.

[Niall_Quinn]

No im saying this because im tired of money hungry players that shows no loyalty to their team. He is already rich as fuck and apperently its not enough for him to be the best paid RB in the league, he wants even more...

It's the final pay-off of his career, unless he can wrangle a sting in the US leagues after. Fair enough, cash is his main motivation and if he can get it elsewhere then good luck to him. But I hope we aren't contemplating paying him that much. Plenty of other guys who would be willing to come here for much less and do just as good a job.

[fakeyank]

Sagna wants just under £22mill over 3 years. It should go without saying that's a ludicrous demand. He's 31 years old, all we'll get for the money is a player increasingly injury prone and increasingly in decline. Spend £22mill bringing a decent, younger RB in and we'll get a much better return over a longer period. Where has loyalty got us with the players so far? Diaby on the one hand, Judas Van Persie, homesick Fabregas on the other.

Obviously, get rid.

New promising youngster will not have these things:
- Experience
- Know how of how Arsenal play
- Dressing room effect
- Ability to play across the backline

Sagna, IMO has at least 1, if not two years at the top level as a RB*. He can then obviously be moved to CB where his declining pace will not have effect on the team. I for one, cannot think of a reason to spunk a lot of money on a player who is unknown and who will require bedding in period when we have a world class player at home. 22 million IMO is a great investment for that.

*- Who is to say he wont continue like how Rosicky is continuing at the later stage of his career? With how fit these players are these days, I wouldnt be surprised if he is awesome way past the 3 year deal he is looking for.

[Niall_Quinn]

Going with my gut instinct. First thing I thought when I saw the demands was greedy bastard.Would prefer somebody who doesn't have to be bribed and begged to play for us.

IF the Daily Dog Dropping is correct - which is close on impossible.

[Power n Glory]

People underrate the importance of a solid wing back until you end up with players like Eboue, Clichy, Jenkinson or Santos. It's an area that can easily be exploited and cost a lot of points if you get it wrong. I see no reason for getting rid of Sagna unless Wenger has identified a key player he thinks will make a world of difference to this squad and is willing to pay the price to get him. I doubt he has and we're seeing another case of penny pinching.

We bit our nose to spite our face with the Flamini contract talks and ended up losing the best years of Flamini in exchange for possibly the worst DM option in Denilson. All to save a few quid! I want the management to think what's best for the team for once and not what's going to please shareholders.

[Munchies]

New promising youngster will not have these things:
- Experience
- Know how of how Arsenal play
- Dressing room effect
- Ability to play across the backline

Sagna, IMO has at least 1, if not two years at the top level as a RB*. He can then obviously be moved to CB where his declining pace will not have effect on the team. I for one, cannot think of a reason to spunk a lot of money on a player who is unknown and who will require bedding in period when we have a world class player at home. 22 million IMO is a great investment for that.

*- Who is to say he wont continue like how Rosicky is continuing at the later stage of his career? With how fit these players are these days, I wouldnt be surprised if he is awesome way past the 3 year deal he is looking for.

Pretty much my thoughts on it. Sign him up Wenger.

[AFC Leveller]

Love sagna and would love to see him stay. Stability has bene key this season and if we want to continue improving we need to keep the team together.

However, if there is ano agreement in place then we have the money to find a replacement. Debuchy and Coleman are obvious candidates and would love to joins us. Both in their mid 20s (Debuchy is 28 i think) so have age on their side.

[Niall_Quinn]

People underrate the importance of a solid wing back until you end up with players like Eboue, Clichy, Jenkinson or Santos. It's an area that can easily be exploited and cost a lot of points if you get it wrong. I see no reason for getting rid of Sagna unless Wenger has identified a key player he thinks will make a world of difference to this squad and is willing to pay the price to get him. I doubt he has and we're seeing another case of penny pinching.

We bit our nose to spite our face with the Flamini contract talks and ended up losing the best years of Flamini in exchange for possibly the worst DM option in Denilson. All to save a few quid! I want the management to think what's best for the team for once and not what's going to please shareholders.

Nobody is trying to get rid of hi, are they? It's Sagna that is holding out for a big pay day. Another consequence of the scummy dopers like the chavs, gypos and comedy outfits on the continent. It's not enough to be struggle to compete with them on the pitch, you have to keep your players on planet earth too. Plainly Sagna has left orbit with his silly demands. IF THEY ARE TRUE. Who was it that was laughed at when he suggested the £100K pw contract was on the way? Now we see hopelessly hyped players like Rooney on £300K pw and even fullbacks want in on the 6 figures racket. This is part two of the great challenge. After almost a decade we can finally get some big players in. Now can we find a sane way to keep them? No point building financial stability at one end and then pissing it out the other on crazy wages. I was watching Draxler last night - £38mill, you must be having a laugh. Almost as big a laugh as £20mill for a right back at the tail end of his career. Somewhere there has to be a dose of sanity injected into this if we want to finish what we started.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

Oxo lifting weights at the training ground. Instragram video so can't embed it.

http://instagram.com/p/luaZEoOswK/#



As for Sagna, I do feel his demands (if true) are way over the top and disgusting. 6 million signing bonus and a 3 year 100k a week contract is ridicolous for someone at his age and position. However like the Rooney situation, he knows he can hold the club hostage over this matter and isn't afraid or the reprucussions of doing so. Unless Wenger already knows of a cheaper replacement who gettable and wouldn't result in a drop of quality (can't think of any tbh) accepting his terms is still a no brainer. With the title race most likely going to be as tight next year as it's becoming this year, we simply can't afford to lose points by playing a substandard defender. We have the money, let's spend it.

@NQ - I agree that the salary and transfer market has become utterly ridicolous but unfortunately it's what we have to work with.