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    Quote Originally Posted by Punchinello Beezo View Post
    I am beginning to think we are eitehr broke or the board have told Wenger not to spend. I just refuse to accept our manager would let the team get to where it was yesterday, he isnt that daft. Also why are we trying to loan Lucho gonzalez rather than buying him??

    Strange things are going on at Arsenal and i would bet one of my balls its not ALL down to the manager as many on here would have you believe
    If that were true we wouldn't have paid so much for Chamerlain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    If that were true we wouldn't have paid so much for Chamerlain.
    Exactly, a player Wenger doesn't deem good enough to play on the wing yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    Well he did spend 15 million on Oxo cube and yesterday opted or Bendtner ahead of him on the wing, highlighting the fact he clearly doesn't think Oxo is ready.

    He could have spend 15 million on a player he thought was ready to slot in which would have made more sense.
    My thoughts exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elreactor View Post
    But how much would they want for him? If it´s true, then I expect this kind of shit from any other team as well, for any half-decent player. They can speculate with Wenger having quite some money and the window approaching. We´re on the verge of being seriously fucked.
    The problem we face is that we're no longer an attractive proposition for players. I know it sounds like I'm being negative but if we were we'd have the likes of Jagielka, Mata & MVila wrapped up as they would effectively try & force through the move.

    I accept that we're not in the top tier like Man U, Chelsea, Barca, Real et al, but it baffles and kind of worries me when players from mid table teams in PL don't fancy moving to us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    The problem we face is that we're no longer an attractive proposition for players. I know it sounds like I'm being negative but if we were we'd have the likes of Jagielka, Mata & MVila wrapped up as they would effectively try & force through the move.

    I accept that we're not in the top tier like Man U, Chelsea, Barca, Real et al, but it baffles and kind of worries me when players from mid table teams in PL don't fancy moving to us.
    I agree, but then we've brought in on ourselves...the losers tag we've gained as well as the fact we've sold many of our best players and have not really invested would make any top player wonder why they should come here.

    The policy we've undertaken since the stadium was in the pipeline has been so wrong for so many reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    If that were true we wouldn't have paid so much for Chamerlain.
    Exactly, we've actually spent some money this transfer window, the problem is it's been spent on extremely inexperienced young players who have a grand total of 0 appearances in a top level league. This just shows that Wenger has lost the plot completely, because the money is obviously available based on his actions and comments this summer, but he has chosen to spend it on youth, trying again to create a second youth project, having seen the first one with Denilson, Bendtner, Diaby etc fail miserably. I have a terrible feeling that unless Wenger is replaced, the next 5 years will be exactly the same as the last 5, with young players thrown into the deep end to compete in major tournaments before they've matured and without experienced heads around them to guide them through these difficult periods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    The problem we face is that we're no longer an attractive proposition for players. I know it sounds like I'm being negative but if we were we'd have the likes of Jagielka, Mata & MVila wrapped up as they would effectively try & force through the move.

    I accept that we're not in the top tier like Man U, Chelsea, Barca, Real et al, but it baffles and kind of worries me when players from mid table teams in PL don't fancy moving to us.
    I agree we're not attractive to very good players anymore.

    However, if you believe reports then even Chelsea failed with their first bid for Mata.

    With the players you quote I think it's more a case of us not bidding anywhere near their value.

    If we had of bid more realistically for Mata and Jagielka I have no doubt we'd have signed them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Punchinello Beezo View Post
    I am beginning to think we are eitehr broke or the board have told Wenger not to spend. I just refuse to accept our manager would let the team get to where it was yesterday, he isnt that daft. Also why are we trying to loan Lucho gonzalez rather than buying him??

    Strange things are going on at Arsenal and i would bet one of my balls its not ALL down to the manager as many on here would have you believe
    So your board are fine with £15m being spent on a kid but not £6m being spent on an experienced PL LB (enrique). You say he isn't that daft, well i beg to disagree.

    We are talking of a man who:
    1) Let Almunia start as your number 1 goalie last season when it was clear as fucking day that a new goalie was needed.
    2) Refused to pay an extra million or 2 to get you the keeper that was needed.
    3) Didn't start arshavin in a major cup game a few seasons back cos he wanted to prove that the team could win without him. They didn't.
    4) Plays lots of players out of position constantly despite the fact they suck at their new position (case in point is bendtner).
    5) Has still not improved the team's overall defensive showing despite years of defensive suckiness costing the team in a big way.
    6) Appears unable to toughen the team's mental state and thus stop the semi-regular end of season collapse.

    Just some of the reasons why i think it's all down to AW. No other top manager would refuse to play their best player in a major cup game because they want to prove a point. I mean WTF?? That is not the kind of game where experiment with shit like that, it makes no sense at all but that's what your manager did.

    Your club isn't one of those clubs where the board/chairman interferes in the managers job and tells them who to sign etc. The guy even had a say in who his boss would be.

    It's quite clear what he's doing with the squad. He's in the process of dismantling the last bunch of kids and is building a new one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    Well he did spend 15 million on Oxo cube and yesterday opted or Bendtner ahead of him on the wing, highlighting the fact he clearly doesn't think Oxo is ready.

    He could have spent 15 million on a player he thought was ready to slot in which would have made more sense.
    so what Man u spent 20 mill on Phil jones no diffrence, you have to play big money for talent these days, he would have gone to the mancs for the same price

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joker View Post
    Exactly, we've actually spent some money this transfer window, the problem is it's been spent on extremely inexperienced young players who have a grand total of 0 appearances in a top level league. This just shows that Wenger has lost the plot completely, because the money is obviously available based on his actions and comments this summer, but he has chosen to spend it on youth, trying again to create a second youth project, having seen the first one with Denilson, Bendtner, Diaby etc fail miserably. I have a terrible feeling that unless Wenger is replaced, the next 5 years will be exactly the same as the last 5, with young players thrown into the deep end to compete in major tournaments before they've matured and without experienced heads around them to guide them through these difficult periods.
    He's chosen not to spend because he doesn't think the quality is there. Yesterday, he said he can't spend every time a someone gets injured, he has no intentions of buying a new CB. Same goes for LB. We just saw Luis Enrique play a solid game for us while Gibbs and Troare are out injured with Sagna playing on the left instead. Enrique wouldn't have cost us much. £6m and we sold Clichy for £7m. It's not about quality, he just wants to certain players a chance.

    I'm just watching Sessengnon for Sunderland. Watch him play. Sunderland paid £6m for him. Watch his first touch, close control, power, dribbling, his shoot on site policy....quality player and loads of value. How can he say there is no one out there when we see guys like this go to lower league clubs for cheap.

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