Winter Transfer Speculation

[Kano]

Everytime Wenger makes some comment about signings and people still believe that he'll bring in someone proven and when he doesn't we excuse his signing some unknown by pretending he's going to be a quality player even though we've neither heard of him or seen him play.

No-one has pretended he is going to be a quality player. We're just trying to make the best of a mismanaged situation by Wenger, as you can see by the quotes below.

this guy is an ubknown and thus we've seen nothing of him to make an accurate judgment

He's better than what we have, how can he not be as our backups are dreadfully inadequate

Not saying this guy is a dud btw, don't know anything about him

[Özim]

No-one has pretended he is going to be a quality player. We're just trying to make the best of a mismanaged situation by Wenger, as you can see by the quotes below.

I've seen plenty of people saying he looks quality and is exactly what we need etc etc

Truth is we know nothing about him or whether he's going to be any good and we shouldn't have to rely on a player like him at all (not saying he won't be good but we really don't know and thus far Wenger has already been reluctant to play him which is odd).

I agree about the mismanaged situation and there's just no excuse for it quite honestly, everytime I see one of these Wenger signings it adds insult to injury for me, firstly it proves he's incompetent in the transfer market and secondly if this guy does turn out to be average (just like the Wellbecks of this world) we're basically stuck with him with no chance of an upgrade for years.

With any normal manager if they got a signing wrong they'd be quick to spot this and rectify it, but with Wenger it takes him 5 years to accept it and in that time we have to put up with dogshite players.

[Kano]

I've seen plenty of people saying he looks quality and is exactly what we need etc etc

Truth is we know nothing about him or whether he's going to be any good and we shouldn't have to rely on a player like him at all (not saying he won't be good but we really don't know and thus far Wenger has already been reluctant to play him which is odd).

Not on here you haven't. That's a figment of your imagination. I just had a look at the Elneny thread and there isn't one comment like that. You probably saw those comments on that same forum you found that that random Egyptian guy.

And of course know one knows. Which is why no-one has said otherwise. Solely going by the fact that Wenger has only played him once shows we aren't relying on him.

[Özim]

Not on here you haven't. That's a figment of your imagination. I just had a look at the Elneny thread and there isn't one comment like that. You probably saw those comments on that same forum you found that that random Egyptian guy.

And of course know one knows. Which is why no-one has said otherwise. Solely going by the fact that Wenger has only played him once shows we aren't relying on him.

So after you were adament Athletico wouldn't selll in the transfer window due to a transfer ban they go and sell Martinez for 31 million, which proves my point about if you pay enough you'll get the player, we jus't didn't want to.

We should have had a go at signing Griezmann.

[Niall_Quinn]

I never really thought Wenger was complicit with the board in terms of holding back funds that could have been used to improve the team. Now I'm not so sure. Two transfer windows pass without filling key positions despite the fact we've had plenty of cash to finally close that legendary 2% gap. Must be deliberate. Nobody could be that incompetent or stubborn. Must be deliberate.

[selassie]

Hey, at least this unknown doesn't have a broken back! Progress.

[Kano]

So after you were adament Athletico wouldn't selll in the transfer window due to a transfer ban they go and sell Martinez for 31 million, which proves my point about if you pay enough you'll get the player, we jus't didn't want to.

We should have had a go at signing Griezmann.

Are you still going on about this? You are comparing two completely different things. They have a transfer ban hanging over their heads (currently suspended on review) so with that in mind, why would they sell one of their best players when they have no hope of replacing him? Martinez wasn't one of their best players. He was very underwhelming. Used mostly as a sub and hardly scored any goals. It wasn't working out so they sold him.

This was also clear enough from the player, someone who Chelsea have supposedly been after for ages but have yet to put forward a bid:

“When the boss told the press that I’m such an important player, it made me want to stay even more," he said.

"I wasn’t looking for another team or anything, but now I think about it even less."

You need to stop basing your opinion on the internet and actually pay more attention to things. Which may be hard as you have very little interest in football and rarely watch games.

[Power n Glory]

I never really thought Wenger was complicit with the board in terms of holding back funds that could have been used to improve the team. Now I'm not so sure. Two transfer windows pass without filling key positions despite the fact we've had plenty of cash to finally close that legendary 2% gap. Must be deliberate. Nobody could be that incompetent or stubborn. Must be deliberate.

Of course it is. Remember this one and keep it in mind.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...n-compete.html

“Ideally you want ticket prices to be as low as possible,” he said. “But on the other hand the only way we can pay the wages and compete without any external help is to the ticket prices because it is our main income. Therefore we are in this situation where, of course, the prices are high.

Absolute bollocks. That extra income goes straight into Silent Stan's pocket and he knows that small increase in revenue isn't what keeps us competitive. It's the sponsorship deals.

[Niall_Quinn]

So Ozil and Alexis may well be just prudent mid term investments. When Pep lands with his limitless chequebook he may well want a player he already signed in the past, Alexis. And I would think in this market Alexis is now worth £60mill. So that's a nice return. And Ozil, we saw how we got a great deal when we landed him. He's another £60mill player waiting to cough up a nice big profit. Neither will want to put up with much more of this shit. They have gone from playing with superstars to pubbing it up with freebie Flamini. That can't last forever.

In the context of bringing in big players like this and then inexplicably failing to add the missing pieces to build a genuinely competitive team, do we now see the two fold strategy behind these signings? Appeasement (and a short term diversion from those crazy ticket prices) and sacred profit.

[selassie]

So Ozil and Alexis may well be just prudent mid term investments. When Pep lands with his limitless chequebook he may well want a player he already signed in the past, Alexis. And I would think in this market Alexis is now worth £60mill. So that's a nice return. And Ozil, we saw how we got a great deal when we landed him. He's another £60mill player waiting to cough up a nice big profit. Neither will want to put up with much more of this shit. They have gone from playing with superstars to pubbing it up with freebie Flamini. That can't last forever.

In the context of bringing in big players like this and then inexplicably failing to add the missing pieces to build a genuinely competitive team, do we now see the two fold strategy behind these signings? Appeasement (and a short term diversion from those crazy ticket prices) and sacred profit.

Yeah I was thinking the same myself last night, Ozil and Sanchez won't stick around too long whilst Wenger indulges in this balmy "vanity" project or whatever it is he is doing.

Interesting how the contract extension negotiation talks with both of them have gone very quiet.