He's a good player, but then so were Lallana and Lovren.Originally Posted by Gooner23
Clyne is decent though, better than most of the dross Rogers has bought.
Ings and Milner though
Not just that though. Generally the way we seem to go about our transfers seems comical. £10m? Even as a lowball tactic that's just pointless.
Was Lovren really ever that good?
And Lallana always seemed to be a technically accomplished English big fish in small pond so the praise went into overdrive when in reality he's not much better than say, Adam Johnson.
Clyne generally plays well in a well-drilled Southampton side, but has shown some deficiencies in his international appearances and is probably not a huge improvement over Johnson in the long run.
Ings is just another in a long line of meh.
Milner would be decent for a more disciplined side, but with the type of football that Rodgers has often tried to implement, I don't see how exactly he'd fit in.
You could probably get players from the Dutch, Portugese and French leagues for a quarter of the price and thrice the potential. Although tbf, Liverpool have fucked up with their fancy foreigner signings too recently.
Hey, a few months back you'd never see Walcott scoring a hat trick as a striker for us. I hear you on the price and age factor but if Wenger can get some use out of an average player like Giroud then he should be able to work wonders with Benzema. Players will either rise or fall to the challenge in front of them.
Well, they were considered good players in a good team, but were both hyped by being flavour of the month in a flavour of the month team. A bit like Clyne. He's alright but he's not that good. Saying that, it's not so much that we're going for Clyne. More how we're seemingly going to go about it. And tbf to Lallana, he actually did ok for us at times. Just not £25m worth of good!
Ings, yeah, he's a mid table striker who scored a few because he was literally the only player in that team who could. He will improve, but not when he's third choice.
Milner I actually don't mind. He's a good player. Not fantastic, or somehow being made out to be the most important part of the City team, but he seems like the type who will do exactly what the managers says. Need him to play at right back for a game? He'd probably do a decent job. Need him to run his bollocks into the ground pressing? He probably would. At out best we were pressing like that, this season not so much. Calling him a utility player would be harsh but that's how I see him. Certainly not at £165k/week, mind. That's only if he joins us though. If he doesn't, he's shit and always has been.
Benteke is the one that worries me most though. Fantastic target man who is great in the air. For a team who can't play with a target man and who barely crosses it. £32m you say? Oh great. I can't think when we last spunked a fortune on an aerial target man. We need another pacey striker who will make runs in behind, open up space and give us a passing option for the 47 trillion through balls we attempt every game.
We've fucked up with most of our transfers though. Not just necessarily the players themselves, I still think Markovic will be a good player for example. But at wing back? What's the fucking point of that? Can at right back? How about when Lambert comes on, shall we cross it or play it up to him? No. Play in exactly the same way as with Sterling. Good one, Pascoe.
I don't think Rodgers knows his best team anymore, or even how to play the players he has. Everything has just become muddled. Instead of putting the players in roles they feel comfortable with, it's all just a little too awkward.
Last edited by Shaqiri Is Boss; 29-05-2015 at 06:26 PM.
Pretty much.
GOALKEEPER (Our keepers are good, but quality can be improved in this area)
1. Ospina
2. Chez
3. Martinez
RIGHT BACK (All good)
1. Bellerin
2. Debuchy
3. Jenkinson
LEFT BACK (Okay to good)
1. Monreal
2. Gibbs
DEFENCE CENTRAL (Very comfortable with Kos and Gabriel. BFG is on his way out as he gets older and slower, Chambers is too young and naive. Need another good young CB)
1. Kos
2. Gabriel
3. BFG
4. Chambers
DEFENSIVE MIDFIELD (We all know we only have le Coq in this position. If he's out we're fucked, considering how he's held it together for us as a team. Need a second DM)
1. Coquelin
2. Flamini
CENTRAL MIDFIELD (Enough numbers here and competition if rotated properly, should consider culling Diaby)
1. Ramsey
2. Arteta
3. Wilshere
4. Rosicky
5. Diaby
ADVANCED CENTRAL MIDFIELD PLAYMAKER (Two brilliant players here, no problem at all ..with Carthola very capable further back in CM. Again decent rotation would be good.)
1. Ozil
2. Carzola
LEFT ATTACKING MIDFIELD (Covered if we keep Theo, but quality admittedly goes down once Sanchez is out, as he's the only natural we have for the position)
1. Sanchez
2. Theo
3. Danny
4. Gnabry
RIGHT ATTACKING MIDFIELD (Ox seems to be on the cusp of something great, Theo and Danny is okay for cover but only Ox is natural for the position)
1. Ox
2. Theo
3. Danny
4. Gnabry
STRIKER (We're fine here but not great, we simply don't carry the same threat as our top competitors in the league and in Europe. Area of concern for me)
1. Giroud
2. Theo
3. Danny
5. Podolski
4. Akpom
5. Sanogo
6. Campbell
Last edited by Maestro; 30-05-2015 at 11:42 PM.
'WHEN HE HAS A PLAN, WE BACK HIM, WHEN HE DOESN'T......WE KEEP QUIET'
Sell, release and give away the following if they are not good enough or not in our plans ...no more flawed projects and failed experiments:
Flamini, Sanogo, Campbell, Podolski, Diaby. Would open up a few slots in the team and free up some wage funds. Transfer fees would not amount to much from that lot, maybe total £10-15 mil.
'WHEN HE HAS A PLAN, WE BACK HIM, WHEN HE DOESN'T......WE KEEP QUIET'
What about Tyrone Mings from Ipswich as the young centre back ?
He is 22, 6'5 and has lots of potential.
He can play left back so is not slow but surely could be converted to being a centre back.
His father is a Chelsea scout, that is the only problem.
Chelsea have plenty of young, good potential CBs, planted all over Europe, Mings would be a mong to go there.
Does this make Wenger say we have 'internal solutions' again?
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