Winter Transfer Despair and Bafflement.

[Niall_Quinn]

Precisely, I love the way Arsena fans belittle other teams when they identify a problem area and pay what it takes to try and resolve it, better than leaving the same problem year after year and sticking with has beens and players who aren't good enough.

All we do is stick the money in the bank and don't compete, we're a joke of a big club, our definition of success is getting into the top 4, it's literally all we're interested in (Lacazette said as much, we already knew anyway).

Would love it if the English coefficient score dropped so that we had one less team entering, we'd literally have nothing to play for then and would be shown up for the also rans we really area.

Lacazette is already proving it doesn't matter who we sign while Wenger is here. If Lacazette stays and Wenger stays, Lacazette's career will be ruined. Wenger ruins footballers and destroys their potential. He's been doing it for years. The smarter players get out as soon as they can, the lazy ones or the dumbbells stay and fade away.

[Niall_Quinn]

Never seen Keita play a full 90 neither.....but if he is anything like some of his hype then the combination of him and Van Dijk added to their first team is astonishingly good. The price tag is nuts, but personnel wise I'm pretty impressed.

We almost signed Keita. Scouted him for an age.

But somebody has come in and snapped him up before he was available on a free. We just got unlucky. Maybe Liverpool will get a transfer ban.

[Niall_Quinn]

I think with Salah, Lallana, Mane and Firminho they won’t miss Coutinho that much anyway

Agreed. Seems to me Klopp has been gradually phasing Coutinho out this season anyway.

Meanwhile our moron is relying more heavily than ever on the two players who will be walking.

[selassie]

Kos and Mustafi would be adequate under a competent manager and coach. We can't be calling Kos the best in the league one season and then a liability the next - not without looking into it a bit more deeply. I've said all along, Alexis and Ozil walking out the door will have a MUCH bigger impact on this club than just the money lost. All of our players will hit the bottom in terms of motivation when that happens. In fact it's already happening. To try and estimate just how massively Wenger has fucked things is probably not possible. We'll just have to wait and see the full extent of his unmatched incompetence as the disaster unfolds.

I totally agree NQ, Alexis and Ozil walking out will damage the rep of this club and we will become a much less attractive club to join, we have more or less fallen behind Liverpool now when it comes to the appeal of players wanting to join either club, god knows what it will be like when Alexis and Ozil leave.

Wenger has really screwed up here and I suspect privately he knows it even though he would never openly admit it.

The sad thing is as many others have said on here Wenger is incapable of improving us with or without money. I think things will get worse TBH, I think we'll sit in Top 6/7 terrority until he's gone.

[Cripps]

NQ completed some work yesterday and is letting loose on GW today

[Power n Glory]

Kos and Mustafi would be adequate under a competent manager and coach. We can't be calling Kos the best in the league one season and then a liability the next - not without looking into it a bit more deeply. I've said all along, Alexis and Ozil walking out the door will have a MUCH bigger impact on this club than just the money lost. All of our players will hit the bottom in terms of motivation when that happens. In fact it's already happening. To try and estimate just how massively Wenger has fucked things is probably not possible. We'll just have to wait and see the full extent of his unmatched incompetence as the disaster unfolds.

Adequate being the key word. People went overboard with the initial praise for Kos. He needs an intelligent defender next to him in order to shine. Someone that's more commanding otherwise he gets reckless.

[Özim]

Kos and Mustafi would be adequate under a competent manager and coach. We can't be calling Kos the best in the league one season and then a liability the next - not without looking into it a bit more deeply. I've said all along, Alexis and Ozil walking out the door will have a MUCH bigger impact on this club than just the money lost. All of our players will hit the bottom in terms of motivation when that happens. In fact it's already happening. To try and estimate just how massively Wenger has fucked things is probably not possible. We'll just have to wait and see the full extent of his unmatched incompetence as the disaster unfolds.

To be honest Koscielny was only considered the best in the league by Arsenal fans, nobody else rated him as highly, he's always been error prone, it's just that now he's terrible, age is also not on his side.

Agree about losing Ozil and Sanchez, the latter has as good as left already though, clearly not focussed anymore, Ozil seems to be playing well but it could be for a move, after all if he wanted to sign he would have signed by now.

[Özim]

Lacazette is already proving it doesn't matter who we sign while Wenger is here. If Lacazette stays and Wenger stays, Lacazette's career will be ruined. Wenger ruins footballers and destroys their potential. He's been doing it for years. The smarter players get out as soon as they can, the lazy ones or the dumbbells stay and fade away.

I totally agree, at least though if we signed some decent players it would provide some excitement for fans, if only momentarily.

[Özim]

Adequate being the key word. People went overboard with the initial praise for Kos. He needs an intelligent defender next to him in order to shine. Someone that's more commanding otherwise he gets reckless.

Yeah I'm with you, much like many Arsenal players, he was very overrated on here and by Arsenal fans, he's had decent games but he also has always been prone to some very basic errors.

This squad could obviously perform better, but realistically it needs fair amount of surgery even with new manager, too many overrated players who've achieved nothing and haven't really justified the hype. The odd decent result (which any team in the league can get), proves little.

[Niall_Quinn]

I totally agree NQ, Alexis and Ozil walking out will damage the rep of this club and we will become a much less attractive club to join, we have more or less fallen behind Liverpool now when it comes to the appeal of players wanting to join either club, god knows what it will be like when Alexis and Ozil leave.

Wenger has really screwed up here and I suspect privately he knows it even though he would never openly admit it.

The sad thing is as many others have said on here Wenger is incapable of improving us with or without money. I think things will get worse TBH, I think we'll sit in Top 6/7 terrority until he's gone.

Which is what the "be careful what you wish for" fanboys warned us of had Wenger been rightfully booted 4 or 5 seasons ago. The very thing they told us to fear is what Wenger has delivered. There's no credible defence on any front that can be mounted for this guy as he drags us, dead horse flogged to death, into a new year. There's not a single realistic thing fans can point at to say things might get better rather than worse. Epic and self inflicted failure. I think the best we can get out of this coming transfer window is the comedy.