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    “I believe we can grow with the players we have”

    He’s been wengerised already.
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    I'll be royally pissed if we don't get at least a new keeper and one CB, but I am kind of curious to see if a modern coach can get another level out of this group of players? It doesn't look like we've practiced defence for about a decade, and there's at least 4 midfielders there who I think would improve instantly just by having clearly defined roles and an actual gameplan to follow (beyond "go out and express yourself").

    Ultimately I think we'll still need more investment (possibly a 2nd CB, a Cm and a 2nd RB), but I'm glad that our new head coach actually knows how to coach (and is willing to do it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by I am invisible View Post
    I'll be royally pissed if we don't get at least a new keeper and one CB, but I am kind of curious to see if a modern coach can get another level out of this group of players? It doesn't look like we've practiced defence for about a decade, and there's at least 4 midfielders there who I think would improve instantly just by having clearly defined roles and an actual gameplan to follow (beyond "go out and express yourself").

    Ultimately I think we'll still need more investment (possibly a 2nd CB, a Cm and a 2nd RB), but I'm glad that our new head coach actually knows how to coach (and is willing to do it).
    I'm not really, half of these guys are rubbish IMO, Wenger buys we should have never made, we just need to get rid and start again and erase the memories of this awful time for the club.

    The likes of Xhaka Mustafi, Welbeck, Chambers, Elneny were players we should have never bought in the 1st place, then you had the likes of Cech, Koscielny we also need to replace and hopefully we let Wilshere move on, just not professional or good enough for a club like Arsenal (not sure about Holding and Iwobi either to be honest).

    I'm not interested in us perservering with these guys, the new manager has to build the team in his image, not us old parts that didn't work properly and try to fit them in somehow.

    The only players I'm really that bothered about keeping are Lacazette, Aubameyang, Ozil if I'm honest, if we got rid of anyone else it really wouldn't bother me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    I'm not really, half of these guys are rubbish IMO, Wenger buys we should have never made, we just need to get rid and start again and erase the memories of this awful time for the club.

    The likes of Xhaka Mustafi, Welbeck, Chambers, Elneny were players we should have never bought in the 1st place, then you had the likes of Cech, Koscielny we also need to replace and hopefully we let Wilshere move on, just not professional or good enough for a club like Arsenal (not sure about Holding and Iwobi either to be honest).

    I'm not interested in us perservering with these guys, the new manager has to build the team in his image, not us old parts that didn't work properly and try to fit them in somehow.

    The only players I'm really that bothered about keeping are Lacazette, Aubameyang, Ozil if I'm honest, if we got rid of anyone else it really wouldn't bother me.
    That just isn't going to happen though Zim.

    In an ideal world, yes, but the reality is, Emery will have to beat the shit out of the squad and teach them how to play football again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
    “I believe we can grow with the players we have”

    He’s been wengerised already.
    No, he's been Arsenalised. He's been told there isn't much money, so make do with what you've got and toe the party line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aubameyang's Wang View Post
    That just isn't going to happen though Zim.

    In an ideal world, yes, but the reality is, Emery will have to beat the shit out of the squad and teach them how to play football again.
    Aye, I would be looking for us to make 3 solid additions, a new keeper, centre back and central midfielder.

    We shouldn’t be skimping in any of these areas, we should be looking to purchase the absolute best available options within our budget. With these additions and Emery implementing a structured system I think we will see huge improvements. Emery has already stated that high press is a fundamental part of how he wants / demands us to play, that in itself will mean certain members of our existing squad will be discarded / sold.

    Our squad as it is does need work, but I do think we have some current first team players that can go at least a level above their performances of last season. The performance level last season was unacceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aubameyang's Wang View Post
    That just isn't going to happen though Zim.

    In an ideal world, yes, but the reality is, Emery will have to beat the shit out of the squad and teach them how to play football again.


    I'm still hoping to see a decent level of investment this summer - given the sheer number of players that would need development, I think it makes sense to cut our losses with some of them, to reduce Emery's work load a bit. However, we also have to be realistic here - most of our budget is probably going to be eaten up on the defensive rebuild, and I'm not sure it's going to leave much for anything else.

    Might be wrong, but I suspect that the majority of the midfield and the attack will get a stay of execution this summer, and we'll see a lot of work going into tactics, shape, positional discipline and really nailing down and learning clearly defined roles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aubameyang's Wang View Post
    That just isn't going to happen though Zim.

    In an ideal world, yes, but the reality is, Emery will have to beat the shit out of the squad and teach them how to play football again.
    No I agree, just goes to show what a mess Wenger left us in by spending money on players that weren't up to it (sometimes large amounts).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    No I agree, just goes to show what a mess Wenger left us in by spending money on players that weren't up to it (sometimes large amounts).
    I think it's mostly a tactical and cultural mess that he's left - I'm not saying that I'm expecting all of our players to suddenly turn into the very best in the world in their positions, but I don't think half of them are as bad as they've been made to look with our casual, make-it-up-while-you're-out there approach, where there's never any consequences or incentive to improve. Most of the problems I see aren't necessarily down to a lack of talent - it's that we constantly get caught with our pants down because our players aren't prepared, and don't have a plan to deal with anything less than perfect playing conditions.

    Come on Zim, you've got to be a little bit excited to see what a proper coach can do with this group? If for no other reason than to prove that Wenger was holding us back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    No I agree, just goes to show what a mess Wenger left us in by spending money on players that weren't up to it (sometimes large amounts).
    My guess is that we can easily generate £30-£40m by shifting 2-3 players that are dross.

    That gives us £80-£90m to spend and then bring through some a couple of the promising youngsters, Riess Nelson, Nketiah, AMN to help bulk out the squad.
    Now we have someone who is good at developing talent and actually utilising it, we have the option to bring them into the team successfully and use them when we need to.

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