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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Jack Wilshere is on £85k a week. That's not justified if we're going relate pay to performance
    Jesus Christ, of course it is. He's a £85k a week player every time he's on the pitch. I can think of one team that wouldn't make room for him and they play in Spain. I'm all for giving Walcott £200k a week because, quite frankly, if the higher ups at the club make less i don't give a fuck. But don't use Wilshere as a yardstick for Theo - jack's in another bracket entirely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Jack Wilshere is on £85k a week. That's not justified if we're going relate pay to performance
    Spot on.

    Jacks good but hes not at Theos level plus you consider hes been injured for 18 months and still gets offered more than our best player, whats up with that? Np wonder Theo is asking for more if thats the case and he is entitled to

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synti Claus View Post
    Jesus Christ, of course it is. He's a £85k a week player every time he's on the pitch. I can think of one team that wouldn't make room for him and they play in Spain. I'm all for giving Walcott £200k a week because, quite frankly, if the higher ups at the club make less i don't give a fuck. But don't use Wilshere as a yardstick for Theo - jack's in another bracket entirely.
    No he isn't. Jack hasn't played enough games, scored enough goals, lead the team and pulled us through tough tiimes to earn around that amount. He's a talent and one for the future puts in a shift every game but in no way is in such a different bracket, especially now after coming back from his injury. He's droppable for Rosicky right now. If we're going to talk about performance related wages then Jack isn't there at all. Doesn't score enough, set up enough goals and isn't keeping the team ticking over with his passing. In a season or two, no doubt he'd be worth the £85k but that's potenetial and not performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    No he isn't. Jack hasn't played enough games, scored enough goals, lead the team and pulled us through tough tiimes to earn around that amount. He's a talent and one for the future puts in a shift every game but in no way is in such a different bracket, especially now after coming back from his injury. He's droppable for Rosicky right now. If we're going to talk about performance related wages then Jack isn't there at all. Doesn't score enough, set up enough goals and isn't keeping the team ticking over with his passing. In a season or two, no doubt he'd be worth the £85k but that's potenetial and not performance.
    Pretty much and paying for potential is what has got us in to this mess in the first place what with paying over the odds to shite ass youngsters who never produced. Chances are Wilshere will produce but he hasnt yet and is no way worth 85k a week now

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    Anyway chaps, interesting days ahead. Let's see how this one pans out. Though I know I'll be laughing at some folks when our latest mercenary rejects the 80-85K offered and fucks off, thereby becoming persona non-grata around these parts - every posts in reference to him being laced with that infamous *censored word.

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    A shocker that people on here are comparing Sir Jack to Theo. Come on lads, I know you're all passionate about your wonder boy Theo, and would probably fight tooth and nail in his defence, but please don't stoop so low.

    Jack is pure footballing talent. Among the brightest prospects anywhere around town, Theo is just a pacy player at best who'll give a good finish 3-4 out of 10 times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synti Claus View Post
    Jesus Christ, of course it is. He's a £85k a week player every time he's on the pitch. I can think of one team that wouldn't make room for him and they play in Spain. I'm all for giving Walcott £200k a week because, quite frankly, if the higher ups at the club make less i don't give a fuck. But don't use Wilshere as a yardstick for Theo - jack's in another bracket entirely.
    Absolutely. It doesn't matter if he's been injured, because it's clear that his talent and application deserves it.

    Jack is the biggest talent this country has produced in my lifetime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshGooner View Post
    A shocker that people on here are comparing Sir Jack to Theo. Come on lads, I know you're all passionate about your wonder boy Theo, and would probably fight tooth and nail in his defence, but please don't stoop so low.

    Jack is pure footballing talent. Among the brightest prospects anywhere around town, Theo is just a pacy player at best who'll give a good finish 3-4 out of 10 times.
    Whats Jack done to deserve such recognition?

    As P&G says, doesnt score many, doesnt assist many. I wouldnt call him Artetaesque cos Jack actually tries to be creative. Hes just not very good at it yet and if we are paying him 85k a week for not being good at something then Theo deserves 100k for being good at something

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    whats all this bickering about?

    under our model a majority of our younger players will be earning more than those at other clubs. why? because we value youth more than other clubs. we elevate them into a senior position quicker than they would elsewhere and with more responsibility comes more money.

    walcott through (somewhat) no fault of his own has now become a senior player at this club. a combination of asset stripping and theo actually starting to deliver has meant he can demand a top wage. on top of that he's english, which bears huge influence. its common consensus that english players demand a premium in fees and wage because of the mess this league finds itself in.

    walcott can earn 100k easily at another club. so we need to pay it. we can sit here and go round in circles about how he's not worth the money but fact is, he is. modern football culture and our youth model dictates this. he is now the star man at arsenal and he knows it, hence why he's insisting on top money. he sees squillaci, chamakh and ramsey on similar if not higher wages and laughs. what have they done? nothing. walcott has done plenty more.

    if this was a 23 year old dortmund player with 8 goals 6 assists already this season and 11 goals 12 assists last season, available for £8m at 100k a week, you'd bash wenger all night for not signing him. so a bit of perspective please.

    and even if he goes, you trust us to invest and replace properly? a club that relied on a ticking timebomb diaby when we sold song? Lol

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    I'm in the jack is overhyped camp, let's wait for him to do something first! I'd also like him to not be such a wimp, he likes to dish it but he can't take it back.

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