is there a scenario for wenger to stay?

[Özim]

you would be right, if he hadnt realsed that statement which made it impossible for him to stay leaving us with no option but to sell. he didnt care about us either

That's a cop out, you'd always find some excuse to blame the player rather than the club....fact is we've been doing this for years, it our own fault, we chose to sell all those players.

The club do it over and over again and somehow it's always the players fault.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

No and neither does Wenger or the club.

Neither would any manager coming in.

[gooners]

i actually think you are way out of step with most fans with this post. it really doesn't matter who was ahead of who when it came to giving up on wenger/the board because we are all here for one thing. i'm not sure when it was you realised things needed to drastically change but i can bet there was someone else who was ahead of you in thinking the same; when you realised, did you want to hear smugness from that other guy?

the divide driven between fans by wenger/board over the past 4/5 years is just as dangerous as the problems in the boardroom and on the pitch. but fans can't be blamed for sticking with wenger because none of us have seen anything like him during our time supporting arsenal and i don't mean in the sense of lauding him for success or any failures. the huge amount of affection toward wenger is not to be underestimated and for all of us it is a big step into the unknown. some are more eager for it and others more fearful but we all want the same thing at the end of the day and that's the only thing that matters especially when its the bad times like this.

I think what zimm & png are perhaps getting at, is the summary dismissal and beatdown of what was considered such contrarian views and opinions back then. A moment of silence for Rkane --- one of those that fell for the cause.

[Niall_Quinn]

I think what zimm & png are perhaps getting at, is the summary dismissal and beatdown of what was considered such contrarian views and opinions back then. A moment of silence for Rkane --- one of those that fell for the cause.

Assuming they were right that Wenger should have gone years ago, but that's a different debate.

[Ollie the Optimist]

That's a cop out, you'd always find some excuse to blame the player rather than the club....fact is we've been doing this for years, it our own fault, we chose to sell all those players.

The club do it over and over again and somehow it's always the players fault.

just like you will always find some excuse to blame wenger rather then board or the player

[Özim]

Neither would any manager coming in.

There's different degrees, Wenger makes it pretty clear he doesn't give a toss, most managers don't..... he's at the higher end of I don't give a sh*t if I don't please the fans.

[gooners]

Assuming they were right that Wenger should have gone years ago, but that's a different debate.

7,6,5,4,3,2,1 years ago?

[Özim]

just like you will always find some excuse to blame wenger rather then board or the player

Wrong.

I blame the board, I've always said I wanted them out....Wenger is part and parcel of that, I've come to realise that when every player says the same thing it can't be wrong all the time....this club is engulfed in greed and football comes a distant 2nd, it's all about making money at the fans expense whilst selling off it's best players to make even more and fool the fans into thinking money is being spent by signing a couple players with the money acquired from players sales.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

There's different degrees, Wenger makes it pretty clear he doesn't give a toss, most managers don't.. some he's at the higher end of I don't give a sh*t if I don't please the fans.

No manager gives a shit about the fans. Don't be deluded to think they do. im not Excusing Wenger in that.

Managers, players have no connection to fans since the game has changed its just the way it is.

I did not want RVP to go, no one who supports the club would. If he did not want to be at the club and feels in his best intrest he has to leave then fine he should go.

[Power n Glory]

I think what zimm & png are perhaps getting at, is the summary dismissal and beatdown of what was considered such contrarian views and opinions back then. A moment of silence for Rkane --- one of those that fell for the cause.

Thank you!