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    Quote Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga View Post
    If Abramovich owned the club Wenger would have been sacked a long long time ago tbh.
    So Kroenke must be some sort of weakling idiot then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    So Kroenke must be some sort of weakling idiot then?
    He only cares about profits as long as those roll in, who cares about the football side....he's a businessman at the end of the day what happens on the pitch is inconsequential to him.

    Wenger has money to spend if he wants to, but if he chooses not to spend it that's fine too as long as the money keeps rolling in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga View Post
    He only cares about profits as long as those roll in, who cares about the football side....he's a businessman at the end of the day what happens on the pitch is inconsequential to him.

    Wenger has money to spend if he wants to, but if he chooses not to spend it that's fine too as long as the money keeps rolling in.
    Okay, so Kroenke leaves it all up to Wenger? He manages his investment on the basis of so far so good but Wenger could spend a fortune any moment? And then trusts he doesn't? In other words Kroenke has invested on the understanding Wenger is some sort of hoarder and skinflint and he's so confident of that assessment he has no safeguards in place and applies no direction or control? A fool and his money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Okay, so Kroenke leaves it all up to Wenger? He manages his investment on the basis of so far so good but Wenger could spend a fortune any moment? And then trusts he doesn't? In other words Kroenke has invested on the understanding Wenger is some sort of hoarder and skinflint and he's so confident of that assessment he has no safeguards in place and applies no direction or control? A fool and his money.
    Pretty much yes, he's said he trusts Wenger and likes they way he works.

    He manages his investment based on the profits returned, he's seen Wenger's record regarding profit so trusts him on that score. If Wenger wanted to spend he could, there would be more pressure on him to get us higher up the table and competing for trophies of course (thus increasing revenue and achieving the right profit level), but Wenger is content making the profits and staying 4th without going for the risky spending tactic.

    It would be a risk for Wenger to spend and clearly he's not willing to take that risk, he's risk averse.

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    you have it the wrong way round. the owners don't want to spend the money. they control it. the ceo is the budget holder. that is the case in every business - even if a director is given permission to make decisions.

    they have just got very lucky in that wenger is shares their principles and will go along with the set up as they see it. sure, that makes him all kinds of not very nice things but ultimately, if the men upstairs wanted to spend, they'd find a man that did so. clearly they don't.

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    Whilst the owners are happy not spending, should he want it Wenger could have money, however expectations would change and top 4 would no longer be adequate, we'd have to move up a level and compete to maintain a similar level of profits.

    Too risky for Wenger IMO.

    I agree they're quite happy with the situation though, as is Wenger and like you said if they were interested in the football side and wanted someone to spend, Wenger wouldn't be there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arse n Wonga View Post
    Whilst the owners are happy not spending, should he want it Wenger could have money, however expectations would change and top 4 would no longer be adequate, we'd have to move up a level and compete to maintain a similar level of profits.

    Too risky for Wenger IMO.
    You say it's only wenger who doesn't spend etc, why hasn't gazidas or Kronos etc told him to go away, leave the money to them. Wenger says he wants Suarez, they turn round amd say we don't care how much he's worth, don't worry we will go get him. You blame wenger entirely for not spending but nothing on gazidas. What is stopping him doing that? Like dein did

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    I blame Wenger entirely cos hes our manager

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    You say it's only wenger who doesn't spend etc, why hasn't gazidas or Kronos etc told him to go away, leave the money to them. Wenger says he wants Suarez, they turn round amd say we don't care how much he's worth, don't worry we will go get him. You blame wenger entirely for not spending but nothing on gazidas. What is stopping him doing that? Like dein did
    Because they are quite happy with him not spending as long as the profits remain the same. As I said if Wenger chose to spend he'd have to up his game and top 4 would no longer be enough.

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    Fuck it.

    It doesn't matter.

    What does matter, is that if we don't spend, and spend of quality very soon, we can kiss fourth place goodbye anyway. Last chance to stop the rot.

    Will they spend? That is the question.
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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