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    I dunno. I think there are deep rooted issues at the club in terms of tactical organisation and how we prepare ourselves for the big games. Look, getting destroyed once by our rivals I will accept but getting routinely beaten like this? It's totally unacceptable. Why is this happening to us? What is it down to? Why does it keep on happening? It's an absolute disgrace IMHO.

    In some ways I just couldn't believe what I was watching today, 3-0 down after 20 minutes? Defence all at sea, Midfield nowhere. It was horrific. I switched it off, couldn't take anymore of it, it literally was like watching a repeat of Liverpool.

    This season so far has been so difficult to judge...I really am at a loss with this team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    I dunno. I think there are deep rooted issues at the club in terms of tactical organisation and how we prepare ourselves for the big games. Look, getting destroyed once by our rivals I will accept but getting routinely beaten like this? It's totally unacceptable. Why is this happening to us? What is it down to? Why does it keep on happening? It's an absolute disgrace IMHO.

    In some ways I just couldn't believe what I was watching today, 3-0 down after 20 minutes? Defence all at sea, Midfield nowhere. It was horrific. I switched it off, couldn't take anymore of it, it literally was like watching a repeat of Liverpool.

    This season so far has been so difficult to judge...I really am at a loss with this team.
    entirely agree, and after today i truly believe even Wenger is at a loss as well. He will leave, I am as certain as I can be. He's not just been beaten but humiliated by his peers and failed to counteract or come up with an answer. i think he knows the game is up.

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    I hope he leaves because with him still here. Nothing, repeat nothing will change. The comfort of 4th place. Yes he will still keep delivering it, but more of chance than design. IF liverpool were this good last season we wouldnt have made it. If Ferguson had not resigned, we would not have made it. If the Spuds were not irremediably crap. We need the Wengerites to stop deluding themselves, standing still while others are moving forward is retrogressing. The reason we fail is mostly down to character in my opinion. Wenger has none of the right sort and he imbibes his players with his meekness. Which other team regularly takes batterings like this and shrugs it off. Only Wenger, because he knows no chairman is going to call him up the same evening and chew his ear off. This shit trickles downward, the players take it like water off ducks back. 4th place and job done. The ones that get tired, move on to better things. No point repeating the same stuff, we were here last season and so it will stay the same, The man Wenger prefers to stay wrong rather than change course and admit he was ever wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I'm not sure there's any point drawing any conclusions from today's shambles.
    If we finish top 4 (we will) and win the FA Cup (we'd bloody better do) then it'll have been a good season.
    The title was never plausible this season.

    The thumpings away against the other sides in the top 4 is a concern though.
    It would've been plausible had he not fucked up in the summer and jan transfer windows.

    Next season will be even more difficult. I don't want Wenger to oversee another transfer window for us.

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    Dreadful day for Manchester United. Whatever glimmer of hope they had of winning the C.L has now gone after today. There's no way we're doing bare minimum by finishing 3rd, so 4th it is and **** all for Moyes this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I'm not sure there's any point drawing any conclusions from today's shambles.
    If we finish top 4 (we will) and win the FA Cup (we'd bloody better do) then it'll have been a good season.
    The title was never plausible this season.

    The thumpings away against the other sides in the top 4 is a concern though.
    If this was a one off, I'd agree with you.

    I think there are plenty of conclusions to be drawn from this.

    We have nothing up front when it comes to dealing with teams we consider rivals.

    Because we offer no threat, quality teams can forget about defence, take risks and have a go at us. They will punish our mistakes while knowing that their mistakes will almost likely go unpunished.

    Our midfield is overrun by teams ranging from - good to top quality.

    We have a glass jaw whenever we play our rivals. We simply do not have the quality and/or mentality when it comes to an important game against our rivals and we seem to do nothing in terms of preparation to deal with this reality.

    Against our three rivals we have been humiliated, with results that will be thrown in our faces for years - and we have no answer to that. All in the space of four months or so.

    And worst of all - we have now got to the point where these types of performances and results are no longer unexpected.

    Nothing has been learned from the result at Man City, nothing has been learned at Liverpool and as a consequence, we no have the worst result of the bunch today.

    What's next?

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    Wenger has taken this one hard. It's got to mess with his pride to lose like that to Mourinho. I don't think this has anything to do with desire from the players or manager. It's just about ability and we got the combination all wrong today. Team selection, defensive set up, approach....it just wasn't right and we suffered. But there is no way you can say Wenger and the players didn't care about this occasion. No way. It's his 1000th game, he said it was a massive game for us because of the title and I'm sure the players wanted to win this one.

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    @Gary
    I don't think any of that, while accurate, was unknown before today's game.
    We are where we are, we all know we need more up front and I don't believe for one second Wenger doesn't know it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maestro View Post
    entirely agree, and after today i truly believe even Wenger is at a loss as well. He will leave, I am as certain as I can be. He's not just been beaten but humiliated by his peers and failed to counteract or come up with an answer. i think he knows the game is up.
    Unless Wenger makes major changes in both the way we set up ourselves for these games and the transfer market then I see no reason why he should be here next season.

    Like you said Wenger has really been exposed this season in the big games, more so than ever before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Munchies View Post
    It would've been plausible had he not fucked up in the summer and jan transfer windows.

    Next season will be even more difficult. I don't want Wenger to oversee another transfer window for us.
    Yep totally agree. I have stated my concerns already about this upcoming Window, I personally believe unless we bring in a Director Of Football type or someone of that ilk, this window will be mismanaged like all the previous windows.

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