Match Reaction Vs Hull

[Özim]

I'll buy that - but the Arteta thing showed bias. IMO.

I don't really understand the bias thing to be honest, not by a whole panel of pundits. If that is the case then people are saying Arsenal are disliked, I'm not sure why that would be the case, the teams that are disliked I'm sorry to say are the ones that win all the time.

They often praise Wenger and the way the club is run in a proper way, there is criticism but of the things we also criticise as fans.

[IBK]

I don't really understand the bias thing to be honest, not by a whole panel of pundits. If that is the case then people are saying Arsenal are disliked, I'm not sure why that would be the case, the teams that are disliked I'm sorry to say are the ones that win all the time.

They often praise Wenger and the way the club is run in a proper way, there is criticism but of the things we also criticise as fans.

Generally, I agree with you. I don't think that there is an anti Arsenal bias, per se. But I do sense that the pundits have been disappointed by the way our last 3 results have interfered with a sensationalist story...

[Niall_Quinn]

It's self evident and beyond reasonable dispute there is a bias against Arsenal shown by most of the refs. Not a win-lose bias, maybe not even a concious one except in the case of a couple. It's in the free kick and card count, our lot will get booked for nothing, we'll get a red first and questions after. The opposition gets to kick hell out of us mostly with impunity. It influences games, there's no doubt about it and we see it almost every week. Just yesterday, if Flamini had committed the exact same fouls as Huddlestone he would have been sent off TWICE.

As for the pundits, I don't think they have a bias because they favour one club over another, I think they talk such utter shit because they are always trying to create rather than just report news. Arsenal losing to plucky Hull is a dream headline, plucky Hull going toe to toe with Arsenal and almost winning if it hadn't been for that decision - that's a better than nothing story. Arsenal smashing a useless bunch of cloggers who shouldn't even be in the top flight, that's not sexy at all. So the pundits create shit out of thin air. Shit like we're collapsing our way into the CL and FA Cup final. Shit like the gypos are the best club ever or Toure is among the greats. Shit like Rooney has been a decent player over the last few years. All made up to suit agendas and to sell newspapers filled with absolute shit. This isn't just in sport. Look at Dimbleby on QT for example, same sort of made up shit and framed debate. The formula works, it sells. Trouble is, if shit like this takes hold, such as player X is a diver, player Y doesn't like a physical challenge, thick footballers can start acting on it and incompetent and cowardly refs cans start taking it into account. So it's worth calling a journo or a pundit what they are - cunts.

[IBK]

It's self evident and beyond reasonable dispute there is a bias against Arsenal shown by most of the refs. Not a win-lose bias, maybe not even a concious one except in the case of a couple. It's in the free kick and card count, our lot will get booked for nothing, we'll get a red first and questions after. The opposition gets to kick hell out of us mostly with impunity. It influences games, there's no doubt about it and we see it almost every week. Just yesterday, if Flamini had committed the exact same fouls as Huddlestone he would have been sent off TWICE.

As for the pundits, I don't think they have a bias because they favour one club over another, I think they talk such utter shit because they are always trying to create rather than just report news. Arsenal losing to plucky Hull is a dream headline, plucky Hull going toe to toe with Arsenal and almost winning if it hadn't been for that decision - that's a better than nothing story. Arsenal smashing a useless bunch of cloggers who shouldn't even be in the top flight, that's not sexy at all. So the pundits create shit out of thin air. Shit like we're collapsing our way into the CL and FA Cup final. Shit like the gypos are the best club ever or Toure is among the greats. Shit like Rooney has been a decent player over the last few years. All made up to suit agendas and to sell newspapers filled with absolute shit. This isn't just in sport. Look at Dimbleby on QT for example, same sort of made up shit and framed debate. The formula works, it sells. Trouble is, if shit like this takes hold, such as player X is a diver, player Y doesn't like a physical challenge, thick footballers can start acting on it and incompetent and cowardly refs cans start taking it into account. So it's worth calling a journo or a pundit what they are - cunts.

This is what I mean. There is bias - not against Arsenal, but in favour of the sensational story.

[Fist of Lehmann]

If people are saying they are biased against us then you have to ask why, it can only be because they don't like Arsene Wenger's ways.

Little bit projection.