Arsenal AGM 3rd June 2016 - Gazidis "Wenger is going nowhere"

[I am invisible]

Look, just pick a side or you'll be assigned one, you AKB SOBs!

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Why do we have to have a little civil war amongst fans

Because it's fun that's why, this kind of thing gets me through the work day when there isn't much to be done.

[I am invisible]

Even me?


Yaay!

No, not you Letters.

[Letters]

No, not you Letters.

Oh

[Özim]

Depends first of all what you mean by want to stay, do you mean want him to stay until the end of his current contract rather than being sacked this summer?. Probably true. But long term no I don't think there is any particular enthusiasm for that.

And again the opinion is nuanced and varied, between those who want him gone now, those who want next season to be his last regardless of results, those who want him gone if we don't do significantly better than last season and those in the very small minority who want him to stay as long as he wants no matter what.

I think the fan base is far more anti Wenger than it ever has been, and is generally frustrated with him but I think the desire for him not to be sacked is based more on sentiment than anything. I think they want him to go, but they want him to make that decision himself.
And as discussed earlier if he fails as badly as he did last summer the atmosphere will become poisonous enough for him to walk.

In hindsight the expectation that he might have gone at the end of season just gone was probably fanciful although I can blame no one (including myself) for desiring it.

By want to stay I mean till the end of his contract and beyond, those who think he's doing a great job and that we couldn't do better because he gets top 4 every year, which up until 10 years ago menat nothing to anyone.

I don't understand the desire to not want him get sacked, better managers than him have been sacked, players effectively get sold (essentially the same as sacking) when they are no longer wanted and to be honest he's been pretty patronising fans, some people totally ignore than and actually agree with his view that the fans are to blame (how daft is that?).

If people don't perform in a job they often lose it or are paid off and moved on in real life after all.

[Letters]

I think it would be a shame if the end of his time at Arsenal is too messy after everything he's done for us, it does look like it's heading that way.
Best case is we win the league this year ( I know, but hear me out) and he leaves with his head held high at the end of the forthcoming season.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Perhaps you don't understand that, but I think it's more because they don't want us to become a club like Chelsea who sacks their managers wantonly.....and there is a difference between underperforming and actually performing so badly in the job that warrants sacking.

Finances were right when we moved to the Emirates stadium, and I do think not a lot of managers could have kept us in the top four when it was so unnecessary, now the fact is that's no longer the case and there isn't the progression there should have been we have a manager who makes absurd excuses and has polarised the fan base

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foot...-a3262986.html

Refer you to 49% of fans thinking Wenger is right man for job, and only 8% wanting him to extend his contract beyond 2017

Maybe they are more loyal to him than you think they should be, and you may be right....but that polling hardly suggests delusional.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Also ever since 4th place guaranteed champions league football teams have strived for it

Clubs like Chelsea and man united always presumed they would achieve at least that, and Spurs, Everton, Liverpool etc have gone hell for leather for it.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I think it would be a shame if the end of his time at Arsenal is too messy after everything he's done for us, it does look like it's heading that way.
Best case is we win the league this year ( I know, but hear me out) and he leaves with his head held high at the end of the forthcoming season.

Was hoping for that last season but it didn't happen, I think United, City and Chelsea will spend obscene money to make sure the title will end up with one of them

And the problem is if Wenger wins the title in this forthcoming season of all season, i think he would certainly sign an extension

I think the best you can hope for is a season that allows us to challenge properly in 2017/2018 but Wenger feeling the fan base polarisation means he can no longer be bothered sitting in the dug out for another season or two.

I have said constantly that if Wenger announced he was going, the atmosphere would change completley.....and his send off would be mawkish not a dry eye in the house kind of event....because people are no longer frustrated by his shortcomings and are excited by the prospect of change.

[Power n Glory]

A 'nothing' story but somehow someway it gets down to another one of these debates about Wenger.

So tedious.